MC Prussian Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 I know some of it is tongue-in-cheek, but what did you expect from a man in charge for roughly two years? A miracle on grass? England's national team is finding itself in a time of transition, with the previous generation having to let go and the younger players breaking into the scene. Like I said in the match thread, if you fail to grow and nurture young talent on a consistent basis in order to fill the holes left by the oldest players, then sooner or later you'll run into troubles. So part of the blame goes to the clubs for not willing to let enough English youngsters come through the ranks. Hodgson may be one part of the problem, the other is that it's going to take at least another two years until England can claim to field a proper team again. The signs point in the right direction. It'll come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggus Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 I blame Hodgson for the poor tactics against Italy. He got it better last night but was let down by poor defenders. Generally they played in a more positive way which is welcome. On the plus side though you could see that it hurt him as an Englishman and we haven't seen that since Bobby Robson. Keep him - no one better and I think he will learn from this. Just need some better defenders now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 I like him. The players let him down last night. I'm not sure what else he could have done. Suarez took advantage of our sleeping defence and then they had about 6 defenders afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 What price do you think a bookies would give me on Pearson being England manager at Russia 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Yes. Never rated him anyway. Too negative, hence why Milner has the most caps under him. I don't get his substitutions at times either, it's nothing different it's just a straight swap. Lallana came on for Welbeck yesterday, and Welbeck did nothing wrong. What about just changing the system and launching Lambert on? At least it's something different. As for his tactics, well I question them at times. Caught out twice by a Suarez corner - which he nearly scored from - ok the first time fair play but tell someone to get on the near post so it doesn't happen again. Would have summed us up if one of those went in. I think he made an error not bringing Cole. Fair play, he hasn't played much for Chelsea this season but he's still better defensively than Baines, and I'm a Baines fan. It depends what the FA wants though. The only thing in Roy's favour is if they want an English manager because I'm not sure there are better options than Hodgson. Though I don't have faith in the FA, they always want a man that will agree with them, hence why Cloughie never got it when he should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 I like him. We just seem to have a dearth of technically excellent footballers in the UK for whatever reason and the box-to-box, 100 mile an hour style of the Prem doesn't translate into international football. We'll continue to be shown up at tournaments until the football philosophy changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Biggest mistake was not taking Ashley Cole. Our defence is revolting and it'll be a few years until we hopefully see some quality at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Biggest mistake was not taking Ashley Cole. Our defence is revolting and it'll be a few years until we hopefully see some quality at the back.Its frightening how poor our backline is, I don't know where a few decent defenders are going to come from.We have been spoilt with some great defender over the last few decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 He should stay. Whilst part of me sees Mike Bassett getting off the plane and yelling FOUR MORE YEARS, I think he should remain in post because a) It wasn't his fault. Some players we would all have picked didn't perform well. b) There are no better candidates available (in a year or two maybe big Nige) and most importantly c) Maybe we have to learn to accept that we are a mid ranking footballing nation who will occasionally make a quarter final but we''re not in the same league as Germany, Italy, Brazil et al. Maybe the England job is about managing the expectation at tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 The thing is we played negative but not with negative players. If you're going to be negative you need to at least flood the midfield not play 4 attacking players. It looked to me like hodgson wanted to be seen to be attacking through his picks but not fully commiting with tactics. I think he'll stay, not sure on candidates. Throw a 'legend' in and see what happens, Gary Neville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 I find it an outrage how no black managers are being considered. You're all disgraceful. Let the biting begin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 If Woy gets the boot the Ginger Twat will think he's a shoe-in for the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Leeds fans will be sweating in losing the Hockaday - Lewis dream team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliall Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 keep him. he obviously has a plan and its about time someone gave the youngsters a shot, many other managers would have brought the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo86 Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Biggest mistake was not taking Ashley Cole. Our defence is revolting and it'll be a few years until we hopefully see some quality at the back. Fingers crossed Stones can turn into a quality centre half, and that Shaw will progress at Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Not for me. He should stag regardless. We're just starting to play the 'right way', and blood a new generation. Chopping and changing is not what we need. Ultimately we've come up short because we have frailties in key areas - Jagielka, Baines, Johnson (who seems to be strolling back and 20 yards away from play every time we concede) looked incredibly out of their depth in the 2 games so far. So what chance have we got if the majority of the defence aren't fit to wear the shirt?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 England "defend" and reach the QF at euro 2012 - Hodgson too boring! Hodgson out! England attack and lose 2 games against decent opposition by the narrowest of margins - Hodgson out! He's tactically naive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 England "defend" and reach the QF at euro 2012 - Hodgson too boring! Hodgson out! England attack and lose 2 games against decent opposition by the narrowest of margins - Hodgson out! He's tactically naive! Mark my words, if we'd still got as good defence as we had 2 years ago then he'd have played more defensively this time round too. Sadly our defence is appalling and it puts real pressure on your attack. We've missed several clear chances in both games and yet Italy and Uruguay have punished us with their few chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Guiza Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 He can only work with the players he's got unfortunately, the only changes I would have made to the squad is convincing John Terry to come, along with maybe Ashley Cole and John Stones, would have made little to no difference though. I don't think he's the best man for the job at all, but he's not the worst by a long shot. We're just not a very good team, some great individuals, but on a whole a pretty poor side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Baffled by the constant berating of managers rather than players, we've tried top managers from here and abroad with the same results, our players aren't good enough, our coaching at lower levels of the game isn't good enough, the premier league stockpiling youngsters from abroad and from england isn't right, but these things will never change. I said at the last world cup in south africa we'll change the manager but the result will be the same...failure,,, and here we are, I feel the same about every major tournamant, our only hope is to get a easy group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny the fox Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 The fans have it in their gift to get things to change..DON'T GO! BOYCOTT THE ENGLAND GAMES.. when the money dries up the FA will have to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samilktray Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Unless there was someone better, which there isn't, I think you'd have to be a moron to want him out to be quite honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborofox Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 Imo opinion our back four isn't international class as shown by stupid mistakes in both games. I do like Roy and we could do with sticking with one manager for a while. Hopefully we'll develop a good team by 2016 if we can get some defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 If I was the FA I would go all out for Klinsmann he pisses all over Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 20 June 2014 Share Posted 20 June 2014 http://www.football365.com/john-nicholson/9355342/England-Have-Failed-In-Every-Way... This sums it up for me. We could change the manager but I doubt it will make much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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