FA investigating Hamza

[Carl the Llama]

27 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

#toxicmasculinity

I can't be the only one freaked out by the unnatural bend in that arm 

[urban.spaceman]

6 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I can't be the only one freaked out by the unnatural bend in that arm 

Kinell that is weird innit

[Wymsey]

There should be a new contract requirement, where the players are refrained from social media platforms or they agree to it being heavily regulated by someone at the club - as a result of this strange incident some years after it occurred.

[Bluetintedspecs]

On Thursday, May 02, 2019 at 16:46, Foxxed said:

Yeah but the IRA are an equal opportunities employer.

I'm going to apply, any idea of the salary bracket and if they'd have any issues with me being a Protestant?

[Nickfosse]

1 minute ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

I'm going to apply, any idea of the salary bracket and if they'd have any issues with me being a Protestant?

As long as you’re a Catholic Protestant you’ll be fine mate.

[Foxxed]

3 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

#toxicmasculinity

Give toxic masculinity the yellow card

[foxinsocks]

2 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

I  can't be the only one freaked out by the unnatural bend in that arm 

It's because she is double jointed - but I need to stop there because I will be reported to the FA - I am 13 years old and get free school meals - I ma exactly the sort that the FA is trying to crack down on.

[foxinsocks]

Just now, foxinsocks said:

It is because she is double jointed - but I need to stop there because I will be reported to the FA - I am 13 years old and get free school meals - I am exactly the sort that the FA is trying to crack down on.

 

[Captain...]

6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Hope the club go all out in support of Hamza and put an Afro on each seat for the Chelsea game. 

We should all show solidarity with Hamza and tweet about how shit women’s football is during the women’s fa cup final.

[Trav Le Bleu]

5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Kinell that is weird innit

And THAT is why women shouldn't be involved in football.

[jim5000]

12 hours ago, Finnaldo said:

Wayne Brown claiming to have voted BNP and told the dressing room including black players that ethnic minorities were 'killing the country', kicked out the club but no punishment from the FA.

 

Hamza Choudhury makes a joke about his OWN race, gives an opinion that women's football is boring, and makes a stupid statement about suicide when he was 15, is punished in retrospect.

 

How far we've swung in 9 years.

Thank god Twitter and it's ilk didn't exist when Vardy was a youth!

[Tuna]

Our lads should all do the pre match at Man City with Hamza shirts on.

 

 

(only kidding of course. That would be silly).

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

It may have been said before and I can’t be arsed to look back through the thread but...he was a kid and said dumb crap. Come on FA, lets look at each person who works there and see if they have never said anything bad. Glass houses and all that! 

[Wrighty22]

Fcuking Arseholes

[Leeds Fox]

7 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

I can't be the only one freaked out by the unnatural bend in that arm 

 

It’s from ironing mate 

[MPH]

18 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Appreciate I'm largely on my own but I still don't particularly see a problem with the FA charging him. It's how they punish him that's significant. 

 

They investigated the claims, clearly it was him that posted them and clearly he now needs to be charged for what is obviously a breach in their ethical standards. 

 

Their punishment should be lessened by the fact he was a kid at the time and I'd expect any statement they make to also acknowledge his age at the time of the tweets. 

 

But otherwise, eh. A lot of over reaction in here. It's hardly going to damage his career is it? 

 

And anyone complaining about his free speech or being allowed opinions, do **** off. He's not being sent to prison, nobody's limiting his free speech, he can say what the **** he wants - but being a professional footballer is not one of his basic human rights and its up to the club and the FA to dictate to him a code of conduct he has to adhere to if he wants to stay in employment. 

 

That's no different to any of our jobs.. None of us could go in to public and slag off our customers and not get a bollocking from our bosses. 

 

 

that’s like my boss sacking me for a mistake i made at my last job. he was 15 and i don’t think he was under the governance of the FA at the time.

[Finnegan]

3 hours ago, MPH said:

that’s like my boss sacking me for a mistake i made at my last job. he was 15 and i don’t think he was under the governance of the FA at the time.

 

It's still there visible on his page, it was there to be found, a view the world considers him to endorse by its existence. He's seen footballers, rugby players, film directors, comedians, politicians and actors all get in trouble for historic (and current) tweets over the last few years and he's still never removed them. 

 

Hamza Choudhary isn't in trouble for what he said when he was 15, he's in trouble for what was on his social media account now in the real time, regardless of how long ago it was posted. He is currently a Premier League footballer and he currently has (or had, I assume they are at least gone now) views on his feed that breach the league's ethical standards. 

 

To reiterate, as I've done several times now, I don't like this, I don't agree with it, I hate both twitter and it being weaponised, I 100% sympathise with Hamza and I'm glad to be extremely confident this is a storm in a teacup that will have absolutely no impact on his long term career. 

 

It's disgustingly petty by the Arsenal fans, they should be ****ing ashamed of themselves, looking for ways to assassinate the character of a young man purely because he best you at sport is absolutely shameful. 

 

I just don't think the FA have done anything wrong (yet) in this case and I think people are targeting their outrage in the wrong direction. I think it's important we have a code of conduct in British sport and I'm fairly confident that Hamza Choudhary of 2019, as the league's most significant (if not only) British Asian heritage footballer would agree. But to do that they have to take any and all incidents seriously. If its a small fine and maybe even a small ban I really don't think it's too hard a price to pay to teach the players at Leicester to be more sensitive with their online use. 

 

It's just a shame they weren't stronger with Rice, to which I do agree. 

[Strokes]

Chill out, they will probably ground him for 2 weeks and send him to bed early.

[breadandcheesebrother]

He's available for selection against man city, right?

[Guest Mee-9]

Ridiculous really when that Palace keeper got away with a Nazi Salute because he had 'no prior knowledge of the Holocaust and Adolf Hitler.' 

 

How do you skate through life with no knowledge of that? 

 

Feel for Hamza. 

[UniFox21]

39 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

It's still there visible on his page, it was there to be found, a view the world considers him to endorse by its existence. He's seen footballers, rugby players, film directors, comedians, politicians and actors all get in trouble for historic (and current) tweets over the last few years and he's still never removed them. 

 

Hamza Choudhary isn't in trouble for what he said when he was 15, he's in trouble for what was on his social media account now in the real time, regardless of how long ago it was posted. He is currently a Premier League footballer and he currently has (or had, I assume they are at least gone now) views on his feed that breach the league's ethical standards. 

 

To reiterate, as I've done several times now, I don't like this, I don't agree with it, I hate both twitter and it being weaponised, I 100% sympathise with Hamza and I'm glad to be extremely confident this is a storm in a teacup that will have absolutely no impact on his long term career. 

 

It's disgustingly petty by the Arsenal fans, they should be ****ing ashamed of themselves, looking for ways to assassinate the character of a young man purely because he best you at sport is absolutely shameful. 

 

I just don't think the FA have done anything wrong (yet) in this case and I think people are targeting their outrage in the wrong direction. I think it's important we have a code of conduct in British sport and I'm fairly confident that Hamza Choudhary of 2019, as the league's most significant (if not only) British Asian heritage footballer would agree. But to do that they have to take any and all incidents seriously. If its a small fine and maybe even a small ban I really don't think it's too hard a price to pay to teach the players at Leicester to be more sensitive with their online use. 

 

It's just a shame they weren't stronger with Rice, to which I do agree. 

Really level headed post here. Agree with everything you've said, until you mentioned a ban or a fine this year. 

 

For me, they can't do either due to how they handled both Rice supporting the IRA and Hennessey "not knowing" about  the Nazis. They've set a precedent that an apology is enough this season, in which 2 cases, arguably both worse, have happened and not been punished.

 

The key one is Rice, similar situation regarding age, which if Hamza is fined and Rice not, then frankly its pitiful. 

 

But I do support the implementation of punishment to those with shit like this from the summer; clearly giving players time to deactivate accounts or clear history if needed.  

 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

This is a very dubious precedent to set. The FA are going to be very busy moving forwards. Every team will recruit a social media analyst now to trawl through opponent players online foot print. There should always be some discretion applied to age and time lapsed. Bonkers!!

[nwl fox]

54 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

It's still there visible on his page, it was there to be found, a view the world considers him to endorse by its existence. He's seen footballers, rugby players, film directors, comedians, politicians and actors all get in trouble for historic (and current) tweets over the last few years and he's still never removed them. 

 

Hamza Choudhary isn't in trouble for what he said when he was 15, he's in trouble for what was on his social media account now in the real time, regardless of how long ago it was posted. He is currently a Premier League footballer and he currently has (or had, I assume they are at least gone now) views on his feed that breach the league's ethical standards. 

 

To reiterate, as I've done several times now, I don't like this, I don't agree with it, I hate both twitter and it being weaponised, I 100% sympathise with Hamza and I'm glad to be extremely confident this is a storm in a teacup that will have absolutely no impact on his long term career. 

 

It's disgustingly petty by the Arsenal fans, they should be ****ing ashamed of themselves, looking for ways to assassinate the character of a young man purely because he best you at sport is absolutely shameful. 

 

I just don't think the FA have done anything wrong (yet) in this case and I think people are targeting their outrage in the wrong direction. I think it's important we have a code of conduct in British sport and I'm fairly confident that Hamza Choudhary of 2019, as the league's most significant (if not only) British Asian heritage footballer would agree. But to do that they have to take any and all incidents seriously. If its a small fine and maybe even a small ban I really don't think it's too hard a price to pay to teach the players at Leicester to be more sensitive with their online use. 

 

It's just a shame they weren't stronger with Rice, to which I do agree. 

I'm sorry but I'm not having that, it's not a view "the world" considers him to hold because most of "the world" are sensible enough to understand that the stupid stuff you say when you are an immature 15 year old do not usually reflect the person you've become when you grow up nor the beliefs you hold. All this represents is a sad growing culture of trying to dig up crap from the past for the sole purpose of shit stirring, a habit that used to be confined to the gutter press but is now open to all thanks to the platform of social media. I can't believe all clubs haven't got a handle on dealing with this now, it's not like it's the first time anyone has done it... 

[Foxxed]

No one uses six year old adolescent posts to promote their adult views.

 

I've used Myspace, Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus and various forums in the past six plus years. Many as a youth. Most posts are pubic.

 

I cannot remember what I publicly posted as a kid. I have no reason to prune those posts. But I may have said something stupid.

 

I am definitely not promoting the adolescent views held in those posts as my current views. Nor was Hamza. Charging him as such is crazy.

 

 

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, breadandcheesebrother said:

He's available for selection against man city, right?

Yep