Fox92 Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 So a bloke can do a salute resembling a mass murderer and get away with it? Hamza needs to fight this and the club need to back it.
Jattdogg Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: So a bloke can do a salute resembling a mass murderer and get away with it? Hamza needs to fight this and the club need to back it. Agree 100%. Yes, what he said was wrong but as a child things should be handled differently. Apologies, education are good steps. We should start checking the feeds of all players and FA employees if this is the route they want to go
bmt Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Does seem strange that the two by white players are fine yet choudhury and gray’s aren’t. Not defending gray but the double standards are clear to see. Also he was 15 it’s farcical. I think the FA should be taken to a tribunal for discrimination
foxfanazer Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 34 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: And pointless. Hey everybody, here are my dumbass opinions. Now tell me yours. Now that I think about it, it's a bit like FoxesTalk. At least Twitter has a character limit
Hammo Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: That's where I blame the FA - that simply isn't true. If they all collectively stood up to this shite these people wouldn't yield a jot of power. There's just too much empowering of absolute ****ing morons nowadays. The constant failure to call it out is the problem. Like most of your posts, Dan, you make perfect sense, but the point I am making is that subject matters (or to use the modern vernacular, "issues") that people nowadays are so eager to categorise/bracket with a word ending 'ism' are so hypersensitive that it takes an extraordinary level of courage to stand up and demand proper debate where these are concerned. For a governing body under microscopic media scrutiny of every move they make, justice and reason are alas inevitably sidelined in order to conform to PC-driven bandwagon pressure. For the FA to ignore even the most trivial of these 'issues' that come to light (I.e. Hamza's teenage tweets) would give carte blanche to these media-backed pressure groups to crucify them.
Crispin LA Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 My god he was 15 when he wrote those tweets, haven't Spurs supporting old farts at the the FA got anything better to do. Because it's little Leicester I suppose, and not one of the Big 6 clubs.
st albans fox Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 2 hours ago, Always Next Year said: Was Susan Whalen even here when he posted it, don’t think so. Missing the point - she is usually v thorough and I would have thought would recognise the ticking time bomb in every young players social media history.
Devonfox1884 Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 58 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: So Declan Rice can post a tweet supporting a terrorist organisation and get away with an apology. So to can Wayne Hennessy who was photographed doing a Nazi salute whilst being a professional footballer. Yet Hamza gets formally charged for mocking his own skin colour and having a cheeky dig at women’s football? This screams of ****ing racism. My first thought too.
fuchsntf Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 On 30/04/2019 at 13:07, urban.spaceman said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/11707623/leicester-midfielder-hamza-choudhury-investigated-by-fa-for-offensive-tweets Leicester midfielder Hamza Choudhury investigated by FA for offensive tweets The Football Association is looking into a series of historic social media posts from Leicester midfielder Hamza Choudhury. Sky Sports News Last Updated: 30/04/19 10:39am Hamza Choudhury has apologised for the comments he made on Twitter The 21-year-old posted a number of offensive tweets in 2013 and 2014, some with racial references and another in which he criticised women's football. Choudhury has since apologised for his remarks and appears to have deactivated his Twitter account. He said: "I've learned a lot as a person in my early years as a professional - certainly enough to know that some of the thoughtless comments I have made in the past are both hurtful and offensive. "They do not represent my true beliefs. I'm deeply sorry to anyone I have offended - both at the time and since they've been recirculated. Choudhury has featured 10 times for Leicester this season "I've grown up a lot since then and learned a lot about life, but I accept that I have to take responsibility for the comments I have made in the past and will be a better, wiser person for it." A Leicester spokesman said: "Hamza's approach to addressing the matter and the remorse he has expressed shows the maturity he has developed in the years that have passed since the comments were made. "He now has a far greater understanding of the impact his words and behaviour can have and is committed to using that influence in the positive, respectful and accepting manner his more recent growth has demonstrated." Choudhury, who has made 19 appearances for Leicester, will not be subject to any further disciplinary action from the club. then all 16 year olds have to be collected,round-up and a disposed of..!!! what a load of CRAP. WE DON'T give them the vote,and we want to crucify them... And they try to sell us, that Adults know how to control the rubb le and are always the clever intellectual mature &wise form of humans
KingsX Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Let’s have a close look at the social media accounts of FA management and employees, please.
StanSP Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Just read up a bit more on what happened with Declan Rice's comment. Was the night before he was due to make his England debut that the tweet/Instagram post was dug up from 4 years ago. All the FA said was that they will 'write to him to remind him of his responsibilities' Basically: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/21/declan-rice-apologises-ira-social-media-england Player is 16 years old. Old comments brushed up from the past. Rice sincerely apologises for any offence. FA 'will write to player and remind him of his responsibilities. Choudhury was 15/16. Old comments brushed up from the past. Choudhury apologises for any offence caused. FA charge him. This smacks of double-standards, hypocrisy and just downright unfairness. I don't want it definitively say it's racism because there needs to be more stronger evidence for it but it's not fvcking far to be honest!
StanSP Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 1 minute ago, KingsX said: Let’s have a close look at the social media accounts of FA management and employees, please. You don't have to look far... Phil Neville literally manages the England women's team and he made sexist tweets about women/women's football
Detroit Blues Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 From a business standpoint, I don't think the FA should be charging professional athletes for what they said before they signed a professional contract. To me, if what Hamza tweeted was a punishable offense, they should have caught at the time and punished him accordingly. Surely the statute of limitations must have passed
fuchsntf Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 I hope Leicester city football club..are strong enough to hire a top group of lawyers,who show this up has an immature scam and mental abuse against under-age Children...it's a farce!!!... the intellect of those people committing themselves for authoritan-office,has proven with Brexit,we have at least 4 generations of moran s and dimwits at official Levels....
Guest SO1 Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 13 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: then all 16 year olds have to be collected,round-up and a disposed of..!!! what a load of CRAP. WE DON'T give them the vote,and we want to crucify them... And they try to sell us, that Adults know how to control the rubb le and are always the clever intellectual mature &wise form of humans Love how they don't mention his age when he tweeted but do mention his age now. Count on people not to figure out the dates so they can get more clicks. Imagine if they led in with "15 year old gets". The media and the FA are scum. This should have never have been brought to the light of day. Quiet words in the managers office would have been better.
car1os Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 25 minutes ago, StanSP said: Just read up a bit more on what happened with Declan Rice's comment. Was the night before he was due to make his England debut that the tweet/Instagram post was dug up from 4 years ago. All the FA said was that they will 'write to him to remind him of his responsibilities' Basically: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/21/declan-rice-apologises-ira-social-media-england Player is 16 years old. Old comments brushed up from the past. Rice sincerely apologises for any offence. FA 'will write to player and remind him of his responsibilities. Choudhury was 15/16. Old comments brushed up from the past. Choudhury apologises for any offence caused. FA charge him. This smacks of double-standards, hypocrisy and just downright unfairness. I don't want it definitively say it's racism because there needs to be more stronger evidence for it but it's not fvcking far to be honest! I've figured it out... was it because Rice's apology was sincere? Put simply (and this is in no way condoning what he's written), Hamza made several mistakes when he was a kid and was probably showing off to his mates. He shouldn't have written what he did and don't think he would have done now. But the FA have to be consistent - I think Rice was only "written to" because they didn't want him playing for Ireland, whereas Hamza is not on the England scene yet. I think Southgate himself explained it well enough when talking about Rice and I'm sure the same applies here... "“He’s apologised,” said Southgate, conscious the FA has consistently appealed for England supporters not to engage in anti-IRA chants. “It’s not representative of what Declan believes and feels, and his views. And outside of that, the obvious point is that this was when he was 15 or 16 when he was engaged in a social conversation with friends. He’s explained how he views the world today and it’s difficult to know without speaking to him what the context of that was."
Buce Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Fvcking ridiculous. He was a minor at the time, not a professional footballer with the responsibility of being a role model.
Lionator Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 I don't want to live in a society where somebody is punished in spite of learning from the errors of their ways. Or else what's the point?
murphy Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 3 hours ago, Itsthejoeker said: Well that's a disgrace. So offensive, I'm absolutely furious. 'would of been' instead of 'would have been' ???? Throw the book at him!
knitro Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 8 minutes ago, Lionator said: I don't want to live in a society where somebody is punished in spite of learning from the errors of their ways. Or else what's the point? It's kind of like holding crimes against people who serve their time. If they're still 'guilty' or whatever why let them out? Is there a penance? I think it's okay for you to make your own judgments but that logic is very similar.
Wymsey Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Shame the FA don't get their priorities right. They could've used their time to investigate this situation, elsewhere to focus on more urgent matters.* *Including investigating payments to agents, racism in the stands increasing in recent times, or even investigate themselves and try to figure out why they're such a backwards organisation which is a shame as English football deserves a better leader in the game (obviously the last one won't happen, as the top people there etc are 'old men' who refuse to give up their throne etc..). Hence this incident is quite nit-picking at it's finest..
CosbehFox Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 2 hours ago, bmt said: Does seem strange that the two by white players are fine yet choudhury and gray’s aren’t. Not defending gray but the double standards are clear to see. Also he was 15 it’s farcical. I think the FA should be taken to a tribunal for discrimination Holgate as well
BoyJones Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Hamza should launch a counter charge against the FA for racism and double standards. All the 'white' lads get away scot free. Clearly no consistency in the FA's approach. If he was my son, I would attack the FA big time; he was underage, just a gobby young teenager - if he is too contrite, they will think he is an easy target. Just my point of view.
Tuna Posted 2 May 2019 Posted 2 May 2019 Ridiculous that he is being targeted by the FA for something that amounted to little more than a silly joke posted by a schoolboy years before he became a footballer and a so called role model. The FA are out of order in my opinion and are an utter joke and should be treated with contempt. He's apologised and that should be the end of the matter. I just hope Hamza isn't too upset by all of this; he should be on cloud nine after such a commanding performance against Arsenal.
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