Jimmy Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 playing him on the left always leads to him trying to shoot all the time, his better performances tend to come down the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanya Posted 7 March 2020 Share Posted 7 March 2020 I like Rob Tanned, but he said recently that he would give Gray another contract. I disagree. I think it would be beneficial to both parties if he left this summer. He needs game time, we need an effective winger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Clender Posted 7 March 2020 Share Posted 7 March 2020 He's 23 with such a bright future, though for me, not with us anymore. I think, as most sensible people agree, he is a talented player. It's simple, the club's ambitions and aspirations have outgrown him. If we were currently positioned on 38 points and aiming for mid-table comfort or were in the Championship top 6, which is not that long ago to where we are now, then he's the perfect fit. Top 4 gunning for Champo's league, he isn't. That's not his fault, so he really doesn't deserve all the nastiness shown on here towards him, it's just bullying now. At 3.2 mill, he's more than earned his fee and wages during his time with us. I'd like to see him go to a club that represents his level and kick on from there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 7 March 2020 Share Posted 7 March 2020 Piper said he needs to move to play regularly. I agree From now on we should not hire players without a growth mindset and the executive function to continuously improve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 7 March 2020 Share Posted 7 March 2020 To Bournemouth, plus £40m, in exchange for Ake. [Insert your own 'Gray valued at £x/-x' joke here.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 7 March 2020 Share Posted 7 March 2020 On 05/03/2020 at 21:08, Ian Nacho said: Awful. All he wants to do is shoot. Really? He looks too scared to look up and play a 5 yard pass let alone shoot/dribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 7 March 2020 Share Posted 7 March 2020 When thinking about offering him a new contract, I guess it depends what money he's on, if hes happy being a squad player then he gets a contract to reflect that, for himself though he needs to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 For me he needs to drop to the championship or maybe go abroad to progress in his career, he’s really stagnated and whilst he shows moments of promise he just can’t display levels of consistency. Which mind you is difficult when you aren’t starting but that is in turn his own doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart10 Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 Unfortunately its time to go,he has had plenty of time and numerous Managers to impress and hasn't.He's been given more chances to prove himself than any other new player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 On 07/03/2020 at 07:36, Tanya said: I like Rob Tanned, but he said recently that he would give Gray another contract. I disagree. I think it would be beneficial to both parties if he left this summer. He needs game time, we need an effective winger. I agree. It screams volumes that we're crying out for a natural winger and yet he doesn't get a game. I doubt Rodgers rates him either given all he got was an appearance in a cup game against his old side and got hauled off (rightly so) halfway through 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 On 07/03/2020 at 08:39, Danny Clender said: He's 23 with such a bright future, though for me, not with us anymore. I think, as most sensible people agree, he is a talented player. It's simple, the club's ambitions and aspirations have outgrown him. If we were currently positioned on 38 points and aiming for mid-table comfort or were in the Championship top 6, which is not that long ago to where we are now, then he's the perfect fit. Top 4 gunning for Champo's league, he isn't. That's not his fault, so he really doesn't deserve all the nastiness shown on here towards him, it's just bullying now. At 3.2 mill, he's more than earned his fee and wages during his time with us. I'd like to see him go to a club that represents his level and kick on from there. I've defended Gray to the hilt on here for all but the last 12 to 18 months as he has a lot of tools to become a top player. He'll be 24 in June and the "young and developing player" credit has now run dry. He has had all the chances in the world to develop his game, he was a regular in the Championship for a season and a half as a teenager before moving to us. Surprisingly he has 124 PL appearances, the majority of them will be as sub I suspect but it shows he's always been in and around the starting XI but never grasped his chance in all that time. You have to say if he hasn't made a place his own after 200 league appearances and a few months away from his 24th birthday then he probably will never be the player we once hoped he would be. Looking on his wiki page he has got 8 league goals in his last 2.5 seasons which I would imagine makes him at least average on goals per minute to most wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Clender Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 1 hour ago, Gerard said: I've defended Gray to the hilt on here for all but the last 12 to 18 months as he has a lot of tools to become a top player. He'll be 24 in June and the "young and developing player" credit has now run dry. He has had all the chances in the world to develop his game, he was a regular in the Championship for a season and a half as a teenager before moving to us. Surprisingly he has 124 PL appearances, the majority of them will be as sub I suspect but it shows he's always been in and around the starting XI but never grasped his chance in all that time. You have to say if he hasn't made a place his own after 200 league appearances and a few months away from his 24th birthday then he probably will never be the player we once hoped he would be. Looking on his wiki page he has got 8 league goals in his last 2.5 seasons which I would imagine makes him at least average on goals per minute to most wingers. Yes, and your post is a factual based assessment rather than a personal dagger. It's going to be interesting to see what happens to him, but I reckon it's not going to be at any detriment to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 On 05/03/2020 at 22:32, foxinsocks said: Listening to Matt piper he was saying how barnes is working on his upper body strength so he can deal with defenders... how this is showing up in his performances. He talked about barnes will to continuously improve.... ...in contrast with grey. I agree with piper... grey needs a run of games... and hes not going to get that at leicester so needs a move. More worryingly... he doesn't have the will to improve himself Gray needs to work on his upper body too, his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 2 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: Gray needs to work on his upper body too, his brain. I posted somewhere else that we should not sign players without a growth mindset (= a belief that can improve with effort) and the executive function (= self control and willpower)to persue improvement to the exclusion of siren temptations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 8 March 2020 Share Posted 8 March 2020 We should get rid, he is not good enough to even take a place on the bench to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanya Posted 15 April 2020 Share Posted 15 April 2020 Rumour on Twitter Bournemouth and Palace are interested in Gray this summer. 18 million asking price. Too good to be true, surely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackubu Posted 15 April 2020 Share Posted 15 April 2020 5 minutes ago, Tanya said: Rumour on Twitter Bournemouth and Palace are interested in Gray this summer. 18 million asking price. Too good to be true, surely.... Would celebrate this more than the end of lockdown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 15 April 2020 Share Posted 15 April 2020 50 minutes ago, Tanya said: Rumour on Twitter Bournemouth and Palace are interested in Gray this summer. 18 million asking price. Too good to be true, surely.... Sean from Enderby said it. I'd take that with a huge pinch of salt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 15 April 2020 Share Posted 15 April 2020 18 million yes please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 15 April 2020 Share Posted 15 April 2020 I'm sure he will have a good career but unfortunately it probably won't be with us. When he first came to us, he was fearless and used his pace well but he's overcomplicated his game the last few years resulting in poor end product. He needs to go back to basics imo, get the ball, beat a man and cross it early. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 16 April 2020 Share Posted 16 April 2020 9 hours ago, shailen said: I'm sure he will have a good career but unfortunately it probably won't be with us. When he first came to us, he was fearless and used his pace well but he's overcomplicated his game the last few years resulting in poor end product. He needs to go back to basics imo, get the ball, beat a man and cross it early. When he came to us he had something to prove. Since then he's become entitled and sulky. He needs a kick up the arse by a manager who's prepared to tell him he's not that good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-bell-in-rothley Posted 16 April 2020 Share Posted 16 April 2020 9 minutes ago, foxile5 said: When he came to us he had something to prove. Since then he's become entitled and sulky. He needs a kick up the arse by a manager who's prepared to tell him he's not that good. Thats it, he will never get any better, he has played against some of the best defenders in the world and he is not getting past them, on the whole his first touch is awful, his good games for us can be counted on one hand, get him moved on and let the club bring another in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 18 April 2020 Share Posted 18 April 2020 (edited) I actually think the general opinions of DG are a bit harsh. You just have to be at an extremely high level to play consistently well at the premier league level, he simply isnt good enough. I constantly see people questioning his attitude which I genuinely don’t think is the problem. He, like many others were boosted to the premier league because he has pace, with the hope that his all round game would improve to a premier league level as he matured. It hasn’t unfortunately. Thats not necessarily his fault, nor a sign he has a bad attitude. Just the reality of how hard it is to be a premier league winger, at least at the level we are aiming for. It is finally time we cash in and accept its just not worked out. I’d still be extremely surprised if we didn’t turn a profit on him Edited 18 April 2020 by Lambert09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 18 April 2020 Share Posted 18 April 2020 1.8m? Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayday Posted 18 April 2020 Share Posted 18 April 2020 Probably the most frustrating player I’ve seen wearing a Leicester shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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