Premier League Thread 2019/20

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said:

How the **** that isn't a red 

Cahill got the ball. Just unfortunate with the follow through.

[StanSP]

Jenas saying 'you can hear Eddie Howe in his body language'  

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Sorry to be an edge lord again (@Finnegan) but I thought that, almost categorically - wasn't a red. 

[when_you're_smiling]

1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said:

How the **** that isn't a red 

Imagine the uproar if that had have happened to one of the big clubs’ players.

[Super_horns]

Getting the ball saved him and probably no crowd giving the ref stick!

[Spudulike]

4 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Getting the ball saved him and probably no crowd giving the ref stick!

Perhaps all of these away wins might provide weight to the argument that ref's are influenced by home crowds. Be surprised if they weren't. 

[January47]

There’s always been the assumption that teams better results are down to the home fan support. Be interesting to see how this turns out and whether home advantage is lost.

[Spudulike]

1 minute ago, pmcla26 said:

I assume you mean Sheff United? Man United don’t have a game in hand

It's all so confusing all this 'United' stuff. 

[urban.spaceman]

21 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Cahill got the ball. Just unfortunate with the follow through.

 

20 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Imagine the uproar if that had have happened to one of the big clubs’ players.

I'm going to disagree, partly out of spite, and partly on behalf of King's ankle.

[UniFox21]

Have to say he's very lucky. The flat foot against the ankle is incredibly dangerous and surprised he hasn't seen red

 

[kingfox]

Bournemouth are trash

 

Imagine trying to rely on Dominic Solanke to score you goals, they spent £19 million on him  

[Blue-fox]

I think Bournemouth will go down. 

[Blue-fox]

Just now, kingfox said:

Bournemouth are trash

 

Imagine trying to rely on Dominic Solanke to score you goals, they spent £19 million on him  

He’s never been worth 5 million let alone 19. Absolutely pony. 

[Stevosevic]

Wolves have great remaining fixtures. 

 

If we think Man United can catch us....then Wolves certainly can.

[Tuna]

33 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Bournemouth are trash

 

Imagine trying to rely on Dominic Solanke to score you goals, they spent £19 million on him  

£40 million they've paid to Liverpool for Solanke, Ibe and Brad Smith it beggars belief.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, pmcla26 said:

Anyone know what it was that Guendouzi said/done that upset Maupay? 

Maupay was involved in the Leno injury

 

apparently ghendouzi was mouthy once arsenal went ahead 

 

he didn’t take kindly to maupay giving a bit back after he scored the winner .....

 

he should get a retrospective ban 

[weller54]

42 minutes ago, Blue-fox said:

I think Bournemouth will go down. 

No shit Sherlock 😂

[SAFC1]

Bournemouth are in bother. 

[gw_leics772]

If villa win tomorrow, big if I know, we'll have pulled away from our immediate challengers and even better imo, we could be looking at Bournemouth and west ham going down. 

I know lots on here want villa down but I will be happier with those 2 pretenders, and it's always funny when little shit teams stay up 😂

[BenTheFox]

Just now, gw_leics772 said:

If villa win tomorrow, big if I know, we'll have pulled away from our immediate challengers and even better imo, we could be looking at Bournemouth and west ham going down. 

I know lots on here want villa down but I will be happier with those 2 pretenders, and it's always funny when little shit teams stay up 😂

As much as I don't like Villa, they add a lot more to this league than West ham and Bournemouth.

[Finnegan]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

It's a nine game mini tournament and we've been handed an 8 point head start

 

If we don't qualify, we'll well and truly not deserve a CL place

 

I really hope you're right. Logically, I know you definitely are. The points per game United, Wolves, Sheffield and Tottenham need to catch us is way beyond what they've achieved all season and I'm aware of what a gambler's fallacy is. Realistically they aren't going to improve. 

 

But equally, we've been getting increasingly worse all 2020, there's been few real solid performances since we started to **** up at the start of December and I'm worried our early season success won't carry us over. 

 

We've got some brilliant young players, one of the best strikers in the league, a decent coach but some serious flaws in the squad that we need a good window to fix. 

 

Rodgers also got fired from previous jobs when he started well but he was never able to recover from a slump, his weakness as a manager is he's never quite able to turn it around when it slips. Celtic was perfect for him because they were never going to majorly slip. 

 

I'm sure you're right, I'm sure we will finish top four. Probably even third, it's not like Chelsea are amazing either. I'm just anxious, as lots of people are. This is a big opportunity for us, it could turn us from a mid table team in to a permanent top four fixture. Spurs used to be the butt of every joke, a permanent under achieving also-ran. They only ever became part of an established "big six" because they were well managed and when they crept in to the CL they worked at staying there. 

 

It's not impossible for us to do the same. This could be a big turning point for us as a club but there's a chance we could spuff it up. That's all. 

[The Bear]

Villa will do very well to beat Chelsea, who are a very good team away from home. 

 

It sickens me to my stomach that I have to want them to win to help us out. At least if they lose I can have a good laugh. Win win. 

[Leicesterpool]

Bournemouth I think will struggle to come back if they go down, be interested to see if Howe stays on?

[StriderHiryu]

8 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Bournemouth I think will struggle to come back if they go down, be interested to see if Howe stays on?

I think he will leave and honestly he probably should have gone at the end of last season. They have been gradually regressing year on year

 

Howe reminds me a bit of Curbishley at Charlton many years ago. Overall he has done a phenomenal job, but after a while without freshening things up, things get stale, complacency sets in and the rot starts to become apparent. Getting into and staying in the Premier League was a tremendous achievement but where they went wrong is not setting the club long term to stay there. Remember they came up the same season we did! But whilst we had hiccups ourselves, especially during our first season up, putting in a good analytical scouting team and long term academy investment kept us in good stead. We have signed some turkeys, but look at Bournemouth; Ibe, Solanke, Lerma, Mepham, etc, etc. These were all pretty expensive signings that have done nothing and only Ake really stands out as a great signing with maybe David Brooks too. Meanwhile they still have a tiny stadium and few prospects coming through. Compare that to us; signings for similar money include Maguire, Maddison, Ndidi, Soyuncu, Ricardo and we have Chilwell, Barnes and Choudhury in matchday squads. I know a lot of people will say we got lucky with our youth team prospects but I think that's being unfair because all of these players were loaned out to appropriate teams to gain experience and came back much better and able to make an impact.Plus the new training complex and hiring of Rodgers shows this was clearly part of a strategy determined a long time ago.

 

On top of this I think Howe is massively overrated, and I think most Premier League fans agree with that statement. It's not that he's a bad manager per se, but he has never really evolved his style or the Bournemouth team over the years. Again look at our club; many people would say it was brutal the way we got rid of Pearson and then Ranieri, but now 6 years after returning to the top flight we have a dynamic young team, play exciting attacking football, are on the cusp of the Champions League for the second time, have a world class training academy on the way, one of Europe's best coaches for developing young players and stadium improvements also in the offering. And that's why as we all know, we have the best owners in world football. Other clubs might have more money and more success but King Power took a club that was out of the top flight for 10 years and turned them into a force with long-term sustainability and brand value that is increasing every year. Bournemouth wasted their cash and haven't developed the club much outside of the main squad.

IMO Bournemouth should have let Howe go to Everton or got rid of him at the end of last season. They played the sentimental card and will pay the price for it. I was so upset with our owners when we binned Ranieri, even though it was clear we would go down with him in charge, but it was the correct decision, as was binning Shakespeare and then Puel (though his appointment remains probably the biggest question mark during the KP era). Will they come back? This is the worst possible season to get relegated IMO as finances will take a massive tumble. They will be forced to sell Ake and Brooks and whilst they have a lot of young players that might turn out to be very good in the Championship I think they will have to sell a lot of them to balance the books. History tells us that most teams that get relegated do not make an immediate return and I think it will be the same for them. Basically they needed a reboot last season and are now long overdue one.

 

Overall I feel a bit sorry for their fans though as it's a bit of a bleak picture for them. They have one positive to cling onto which is their owner pumped a lot of money into the club and may well keep doing so. But right now of the Yo-Yo clubs I feel that others are better setup than they are. Over the next 2-3 seasons I expect a few teams to bounce between the leagues; Leeds, Villa, Fulham, West Brom and Brentford. And currently I think all of those clubs have better things going for them than Bournemouth. We will have to wait and see though I guess!

[Leicesterpool]

2 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think he will leave and honestly he probably should have gone at the end of last season. They have been gradually regressing year on year

 

Howe reminds me a bit of Curbishley at Charlton many years ago. Overall he has done a phenomenal job, but after a while without freshening things up, things get stale, complacency sets in and the rot starts to become apparent. Getting into and staying in the Premier League was a tremendous achievement but where they went wrong is not setting the club long term to stay there. Remember they came up the same season we did! But whilst we had hiccups ourselves, especially during our first season up, putting in a good analytical scouting team and long term academy investment kept us in good stead. We have signed some turkeys, but look at Bournemouth; Ibe, Solanke, Lerma, Mepham, etc, etc. These were all pretty expensive signings that have done nothing and only Ake really stands out as a great signing with maybe David Brooks too. Meanwhile they still have a tiny stadium and few prospects coming through. Compare that to us; signings for similar money include Maguire, Maddison, Ndidi, Soyuncu, Ricardo and we have Chilwell, Barnes and Choudhury in matchday squads. I know a lot of people will say we got lucky with our youth team prospects but I think that's being unfair because all of these players were loaned out to appropriate teams to gain experience and came back much better and able to make an impact.Plus the new training complex and hiring of Rodgers shows this was clearly part of a strategy determined a long time ago.

 

On top of this I think Howe is massively overrated, and I think most Premier League fans agree with that statement. It's not that he's a bad manager per se, but he has never really evolved his style or the Bournemouth team over the years. Again look at our club; many people would say it was brutal the way we got rid of Pearson and then Ranieri, but now 6 years after returning to the top flight we have a dynamic young team, play exciting attacking football, are on the cusp of the Champions League for the second time, have a world class training academy on the way, one of Europe's best coaches for developing young players and stadium improvements also in the offering. And that's why as we all know, we have the best owners in world football. Other clubs might have more money and more success but King Power took a club that was out of the top flight for 10 years and turned them into a force with long-term sustainability and brand value that is increasing every year. Bournemouth wasted their cash and haven't developed the club much outside of the main squad.

IMO Bournemouth should have let Howe go to Everton or got rid of him at the end of last season. They played the sentimental card and will pay the price for it. I was so upset with our owners when we binned Ranieri, even though it was clear we would go down with him in charge, but it was the correct decision, as was binning Shakespeare and then Puel (though his appointment remains probably the biggest question mark during the KP era). Will they come back? This is the worst possible season to get relegated IMO as finances will take a massive tumble. They will be forced to sell Ake and Brooks and whilst they have a lot of young players that might turn out to be very good in the Championship I think they will have to sell a lot of them to balance the books. History tells us that most teams that get relegated do not make an immediate return and I think it will be the same for them. Basically they needed a reboot last season and are now long overdue one.

 

Overall I feel a bit sorry for their fans though as it's a bit of a bleak picture for them. They have one positive to cling onto which is their owner pumped a lot of money into the club and may well keep doing so. But right now of the Yo-Yo clubs I feel that others are better setup than they are. Over the next 2-3 seasons I expect a few teams to bounce between the leagues; Leeds, Villa, Fulham, West Brom and Brentford. And currently I think all of those clubs have better things going for them than Bournemouth. We will have to wait and see though I guess!

Be interesting to see Howe he gets after he leaves Bournemouth, last he left them he went to Burnley and didn't exactly set the world a little and ended up him dropping a level to return to Bournemouth. Funny you mentioned Curbishley did a good at Charlton but his career never took off after that job.