Aston Villa post match thread 2-1

[RoboFox]

First post since the final whistle, purposefully so. I was way too salty and sulky last night. It wasn't really being "gutted" per se, more a general anger at the injustice of it all.

 

We were much the better team, and unfortunately you've just got to chalk it down to "one of those nights". Things just didn't go our way. I can forgive and forget, because we're still destined to do something special this season. 

 

One thing that hasn't changed though. My distain for Villa. The pitch invasion at the end compounded it. 

 

They're just... Grotty and a bit nasty. Like the guy who comes up to you at a party and kinda looks the part, and is friendly enough, yet everyone is avoiding him and you're unsure why, then as soon as he starts speaking his breath fvcking stinks and you can't look at him anymore and try desperately to get away, y'know?

 

Edited 29 January 2020 by RoboFox

[Jattdogg]

Well positives are that we can now watch villa get spanked by man city 7 nil.

[mabrah]

3 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

First post since the final whistle, purposefully so. I was way to salty and sulky last night.

Well done you for showing restraint! I know what you mean but personally I needed to vent, as diplomatically as possible, just to get it out my system. I consider the forum an ideal place to do it, rather than take it out on the random items of lounge knick-knacks/decoration. I was not a pleasant person come the final whistle.

[Dames]

Rodgers has done great so far but my concern at the minute is that he's been up against bin men in Scotland for 3 seasons with no real pressure on his side as they were comfortably better than the opposition and most of the time teams turned up against Celtic already beaten. We've looked our best this season against teams that are of a similar mind set to those teams in Scotland. Where Rodgers has really struggled has been motivating his team and getting them up for the 'pressure games' any time a team has come at us this season we've looked like Rabbits in headlights and Rodgers needs to address that because we can all see that if the heads drop in this team for a sustained amount of time it has the potential to derail our season.

 

Saying that I have no reason yet to believe Rodgers won't fix this - we are still having a great season its just a shame the semi finals played out as they did.

[UniFox21]

 

 

[CUJimmy]

Lots of understandable frustration but some of the criticism of players is a joke.

 

Their keeper produced three world class saves, not reaction saves from close in where you could argue that the striker could have done better.  Maddison twice and Youri did everything right with shots that were going right in the corner - nothing we can do but applaud the lad.  Some of our players didn’t have their best game in a City shirt but to say that they don’t care enough is ridiculous.

 

The handball is baffling and I would love to hear Dermot’s take on it but I doubt there will be a Ref Watch on Sky today so I guess we have to suck it up.  Hopefully Lee Mason will decide he owes us one on Saturday.

 

I am as gutted as anyone this morning but I don’t think it feels as bad as it would have done in 97,99 or 2000 because we still have so much to play for.  As numerous people have said this is a very young team and while 2000 did feel like the end of an era this is only the beginning.

 

My hope is that Brendan, Kolo etc can use this to spur on the lads for Chelsea on Saturday and that we can do our bit by making sure that the KP is absolutely rocking.  

 

 

[Muzzy_Larsson]

3 minutes ago, CUJimmy said:

Lots of understandable frustration but some of the criticism of players is a joke.

 

Their keeper produced three world class saves, not reaction saves from close in where you could argue that the striker could have done better.  Maddison twice and Youri did everything right with shots that were going right in the corner - nothing we can do but applaud the lad.  Some of our players didn’t have their best game in a City shirt but to say that they don’t care enough is ridiculous.

 

The handball is baffling and I would love to hear Dermot’s take on it but I doubt there will be a Ref Watch on Sky today so I guess we have to suck it up.  Hopefully Lee Mason will decide he owes us one on Saturday.

 

I am as gutted as anyone this morning but I don’t think it feels as bad as it would have done in 97,99 or 2000 because we still have so much to play for.  As numerous people have said this is a very young team and while 2000 did feel like the end of an era this is only the beginning.

 

My hope is that Brendan, Kolo etc can use this to spur on the lads for Chelsea on Saturday and that we can do our bit by making sure that the KP is absolutely rocking.  

 

 

Using the handball decisions already given this season by VAR as a benchmark it was an absolute disgrace no penalty was given last night.

[The whole world smiles]

2 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

 

 

"A Mob, exposed and vulnerable" FFS stringer is so dramatic.

[CUJimmy]

2 minutes ago, henrik_62 said:

Using the handball decisions already given this season by VAR as a benchmark it was an absolute disgrace no penalty was given last night.

There seems to be a suggestion  that they looked at the wrong incident but I can’t see anyone coming out and admitting that.

[Pliskin]

If you take the game apart any analyse everything, it's minor details which are costing us games. Maddison's first effort goes in and we win comfortably. Our mental resolve needs to be worked on, ability wise we're absolutely flying, but it is that mentality, the ability to keep grinding away, that is simply what Villa did... They kept on plugging away at what they were doing and eventually it paid off, largely thanks to our wastefulness in front of goal and a shocking penalty decision. 

 

These fine margins can be worked on, and when we come through that process we will be a much better side. The irony being we will probably batter them at our place in the league. 

[mabrah]

1 minute ago, CUJimmy said:

There seems to be a suggestion  that they looked at the wrong incident but I can’t see anyone coming out and admitting that.

I've read that (on the Mercury and Guardian comments, so possibly the same person) and I don't think it's the case.

 

It's true that the initial TV replays showed a later incident but the VAR replays showed the correct one. Which incident the VAR bods reviewed, well, who can say but you'd kinda hope they looked at the first incident, the Nakamba one.

[Sly]

Every game is defined by small margins.
 

It’s that 1% difference the elite sportspeople and sports teams strive to get. That’s what sets them apart from others. That’s what makes them champions. 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

I haven't heard any pundit since say it 'wasn't' a peno. But I've heard a few say it was a stonewall one. 

 

The gods didn't want us to win that semi. It was just a frustrating 180mins all round.

[Deeg67]

One thing we really missed yesterday was Praet consistently presenting himself as an option for the pass, something Maddison and Tielemans don't do nearly as often.  Too many times Evans and Soyuncu were left dribbling the ball almost to the halfway line with no one seemingly interesting in being available for a pass, forcing them to hoof it over the top.

Edited 29 January 2020 by Deeg67

[martyn]

Just now, Deeg67 said:

One thing we really missed yesterday was Praet consistently presenting himself as an option for the pass, something Maddison and Tielemans don't do nearly as often.  Too many times Evans and Soyuncu were left dribbling the ball almost to the halfway line with no one seemingly interesting in being available for a pass, forcing them to hood it over the top.

Our midfield needs to get better at providing passing angles for the back 4. One of our biggest Achilles heels is our inability to beat a sustained high press.

 

Only other option is the Liverpool style quick switch of play between full backs, but Chilwell and Ricardo aren't good enough ball strikers to do that.

[nettle]

32 minutes ago, martyn said:

Our midfield needs to get better at providing passing angles for the back 4. One of our biggest Achilles heels is our inability to beat a sustained high press.

 

Only other option is the Liverpool style quick switch of play between full backs, but Chilwell and Ricardo aren't good enough ball strikers to do that.

Exactly this mate great post we can't deal with the high press and Liverpool and Man city have shown other teams how to deal with us. 

[Qwerty]

We were the better team and they got lucky.  I don't know where 4 minutes stoppage time came from - I reckon it should only have been about 2 minutes, in which case we'd have gone to penalties and probably won.

The penalty shout was strange.  They seemed to show 2 replay clips on TV.  The first one wasn't a handball and the second one was, so I wonder if the wrong bit of play was analysed.  Weird.

Anyway, Villa will have a long journey to Wembley then watch their team get spanked by Man City and have all that nasty traffic going home again.  I don't envy them that!

[ealingfox]

 

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

 

 

Vardy similarly got stick which crossed a line as well last night - occasions like that show how Villa have far in someways, they have a generation of fans that these moments are their greatest. 

[AKCJ]

23 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Stringer is the one that got away for a rag like The Sun.

 

Self-obsessed freak.

[manders86]

Hurts today doesnt it? I'm worried we are getting a bit Spursy.

[dynamark]

All a mess and we should have won .

But wilf had an awful lot to do last night and ricardo going forward left us very exposed on the left where they did most of their good work.Ran out of energy a bit and struggled to get the ball out into midfield at times.

Re two goals first one started when Chilly came out second best in a scrappy high ball situation ,ball broke to them  and it did look like kasper could have done better.

Second goal I saw coming when the lad got the ball Gray was quite close to him but for some reason(he may have though the danger was down the wing) he backed off gave the lad time to take a few steps and looked up picked his pass.

Tough night but they should be raging  for Chelsea.

[Mark_w]

2 hours ago, chapero82 said:

Can I just say when I post we won’t score during a match thread, I’m not being pessimistic the reason I do it is because when I do say it we normally score a few minutes later, it’s a superstition of mine so please ignore it  

Why on earth didn't you do it a bit more yesterday then? 

[chapero82]

3 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

Why on earth didn't you do it a bit more yesterday then? 

I did and we scored not long after  I didn’t get time to do it on the 2nd goal 

[brucey]