Lesterlad Posted 26 January 2021 Share Posted 26 January 2021 Have always wanted us to play Leverkusen. My Uncle and Cousin live there and are Leverkusen fans and both work/worked at Bayers. However now Gray looks like he is going there, 8 am not sure if I want to play them now and Gray scores the winner for them as that is likely to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 26 January 2021 Share Posted 26 January 2021 I was so excited when we bought him, thought we had the next Raheem Sterling on our hands. Sadly big let down, happy to see him leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gliballs Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 1 hour ago, LC/FC said: It's telling that out of all Ranieri's signings that only Mendy is kept because to come back from his injuries requires a strong mind, and is a testament to him that he's an important member of the squad and capable deputy for Ndidi and a good partner with Youri. Amartey signed under Claudio too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 He has not progressed at all since the day we bought him. I kept thinking he would improve and mature as a player but he just hasn't and seeing Barnes come in after his loan spell and hit the ground running and then continuing to improve, has really been the final nail in the coffin for Gray's time here. We probably should have sold him quite a while ago, but I am glad Rodgers got a good look at him too, as if he can't get anything out of him, then he is well and truly done here. Hope he goes abroad, Leverkusen would be ideal. He needs a serious wake-up call and a reset. I just don't think he has the ability to be a Premier League player though. Starting to think Iheanacho is going the same way too, unfortunately! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerard Posted 27 January 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2021 59 minutes ago, STUHILL said: He has not progressed at all since the day we bought him. I kept thinking he would improve and mature as a player but he just hasn't and seeing Barnes come in after his loan spell and hit the ground running and then continuing to improve, has really been the final nail in the coffin for Gray's time here. We probably should have sold him quite a while ago, but I am glad Rodgers got a good look at him too, as if he can't get anything out of him, then he is well and truly done here. Hope he goes abroad, Leverkusen would be ideal. He needs a serious wake-up call and a reset. I just don't think he has the ability to be a Premier League player though. Starting to think Iheanacho is going the same way too, unfortunately! I was a big fan of Gray and Chilwell as young lads but IMO they're both more or less the same player now as they were at 19/20. You can only dine out on potential for so long and once you get to 23 and beyond and people are still talking about potential then they're probably never going to be that player you hoped they once would. Gray is the opposite to Albrighton as a new manager always favoured him on perception but after a few appearances and six weeks down the line he lost his place again. Albrighton usually was perceived poorly and eventually won the manager over. Since Mahrez left we've struggled for wingers and Gray has had to compete with Albrighton, Perez, Ghezzal and Diabate and still didn't force his way in. He's also seen Harvey Barnes overtake him and fly off into the distance. Gray has had every opportunity and failed to nail it every time. He's 25 in the summer and has been here five years, that speaks volumes and I was one of his biggest fans a few years a go. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylesta Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 10 hours ago, LC/FC said: Problem was he never fitted in the team/club. He wasn't a player that was screened through the club's normally rigorous filtering process that our recruitment is renowned for. He was just one of Claudio's follies, mesmerized by stunning preseason goal but like many of his purchases: Inler, Benalouane, Musa, Slimani... None of them have that hard working, intense mentality we desire in our players. It's telling that out of all Ranieri's signings that only Mendy is kept because to come back from his injuries requires a strong mind, and is a testament to him that he's an important member of the squad and capable deputy for Ndidi and a good partner with Youri. Ranieri signed ndidi to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 12 hours ago, Frost said: What are Leverkusen doing? Good riddance How he got that move I'll never know. He's a Championship standard winger or PL impact sub. You sure about that bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 I am excited - the number 7 is free -- announce Ronaldo Rudders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakemoore Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 We should have sold him when Bournemouth offered £30m for him!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 5 minutes ago, mozartfox said: I am excited - the number 7 is free -- announce Ronaldo Rudders! We haven't had a decent 7 in years. Dean Hammond, musa then Gray I think? That's shambolic really. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokinghamfox Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 5 minutes ago, Jakemoore said: We should have sold him when Bournemouth offered £30m for him!! Hindsight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 3 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: We haven't had a decent 7 in years. Dean Hammond, musa then Gray I think? That's shambolic really. Ronaldo Rudders is the the nephew of Anderson Perry playing in the Ecuadorian National League North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 Doubt he leaves this window tbh, sure he will go in the Summer, but don't get your hoipes up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 I can't help wonder if a sports psychologist could have helped with Gray. There's clearly a player in there, but there is also a reason a succession of managers have not managed to get a consistent tune out of him. It really is baffling how someone can come on now and again and make a difference as a sub, earn a start then do absolutely naff all. The more I think about it, the more I think there is something wrong with Gray's psyche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Incognito said: I can't help wonder if a sports psychologist could have helped with Gray. There's clearly a player in there, but there is also a reason a succession of managers have not managed to get a consistent tune out of him. It really is baffling how someone can come on now and again and make a difference as a sub, earn a start then do absolutely naff all. The more I think about it, the more I think there is something wrong with Gray's psyche. Or he’s just not very good or not clever enough or even both . I’d suggest the latter . Not everything has to be psychological Edited 27 January 2021 by baldeagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 15 minutes ago, Incognito said: I can't help wonder if a sports psychologist could have helped with Gray. There's clearly a player in there, but there is also a reason a succession of managers have not managed to get a consistent tune out of him. It really is baffling how someone can come on now and again and make a difference as a sub, earn a start then do absolutely naff all. The more I think about it, the more I think there is something wrong with Gray's psyche. haha what a load of waffle, this ain't some kind of psyche ward opportunity ffs. Some players have it some don't, Grays just at his limit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzanator89 Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 14 minutes ago, Incognito said: I can't help wonder if a sports psychologist could have helped with Gray. There's clearly a player in there, but there is also a reason a succession of managers have not managed to get a consistent tune out of him. It really is baffling how someone can come on now and again and make a difference as a sub, earn a start then do absolutely naff all. The more I think about it, the more I think there is something wrong with Gray's psyche. He is just not as good as he makes himself out to be, has the attitude sometimes of a pouty child. Does the half-decent cameo, gets his chance and then does nothing. Wouldn't believe he was a Premier League winner at one stage. Looks like he is turning down PL clubs in favour to a move to a European club, good luck to him. Might help to restart his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 5 minutes ago, Bezzanator89 said: He is just not as good as he makes himself out to be, has the attitude sometimes of a pouty child. I'm just going to reply 'evidence please?' every time someone posts this shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 He's been a massive disappointment. He has talent, but never lived up to the potential. I will always remember him though, for his goal at Cardiff in the game after the loss of Vichai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 24 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: We haven't had a decent 7 in years. Dean Hammond, musa then Gray I think? That's shambolic really. In all the time I've supported the club, I don't think we've really had a proper no.7. Joachim might be the last one, and that's very slightly before my time. I think it should be a key player with flair/goals. Right winger, ideally, or maybe a LW or striker. Lennon was a great player, but he's not a no.7. The closest thing I think we've had was probably Hume or Gallagher. I thought Keith Gillespie might be one when we signed him, but he was disappointing. Am I forgetting anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzanator89 Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 Just now, AjcW said: I'm just going to reply 'evidence please?' every time someone posts this shite. HA. I take your shite comment and draw your attention to the Shakespeare days. Most players would keep up the effort behind the scenes but he instead shows his ages and immaturity, goes to the media and undermines his own manager's authority. NOV 10, 2017 - Demarai Gray Reveals Frustrations Over Lack of Playing Time Under Craig Shakespeare "Being in and out of the team is not good. You see the players that are getting selected. A lot of them are playing regular football at their club and we all know what Gareth is about. If you are in good form and doing well at your club, he will put faith in you." "That is why I felt very disappointed at times because I felt I was being held back by not playing. I know what I'm capable of. I think with my last few performances I have started to show people what I can do." "Over the last 18 months I've been held back a bit. There were times I felt I could have played, but it was the manager's decision. Everything happens for a reason and I think I've got through the rough stage. It's settling now. Since Puel came in, I feel I'm going to get more chances." Thanks to the above, Shakey was called out and chose to give Gray more game-time Look how that panned out. If you're going to stick your neck, back it up with good performances. Gray has not done that. How's that for a shite comment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samilktray Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 Hopefully him moving on means we won’t have to see some of weird over zealous hatred towards him from people on this forum. Never seen anything like it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 He's a petulant man child. I'm fairly sure he believes the issue has been with the various managers, as opposed to himself. Just hasn't wanted to knuckle down and apply himself. Such a shame, as the cameos show he had undoubted technical ability. Not to mention good pace. But I struggle to remember a game where he's applied that over 45 mins, let alone a whole match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 29 minutes ago, Bezzanator89 said: HA. I take your shite comment and draw your attention to the Shakespeare days. Most players would keep up the effort behind the scenes but he instead shows his ages and immaturity, goes to the media and undermines his own manager's authority. NOV 10, 2017 - Demarai Gray Reveals Frustrations Over Lack of Playing Time Under Craig Shakespeare "Being in and out of the team is not good. You see the players that are getting selected. A lot of them are playing regular football at their club and we all know what Gareth is about. If you are in good form and doing well at your club, he will put faith in you." "That is why I felt very disappointed at times because I felt I was being held back by not playing. I know what I'm capable of. I think with my last few performances I have started to show people what I can do." "Over the last 18 months I've been held back a bit. There were times I felt I could have played, but it was the manager's decision. Everything happens for a reason and I think I've got through the rough stage. It's settling now. Since Puel came in, I feel I'm going to get more chances." Thanks to the above, Shakey was called out and chose to give Gray more game-time Look how that panned out. If you're going to stick your neck, back it up with good performances. Gray has not done that. How's that for a shite comment? That comment was from 3 years ago. Am I missing something? Not saying it’s inconceivable the guy is a d*ck tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxFossil Posted 27 January 2021 Share Posted 27 January 2021 19 hours ago, woznotwos said: More importantly. Any ideas on a new scapegoat? The team looks too good presently IMO. We maybe need to look into signing one before the window shuts. Fat B*stard Filbert. Just not progressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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