wardyfox86 Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 2 hours ago, davieG said: Accounts confirm Celtic received £8.8m for Brenda as he sought return to mediocrity By TOM MCNEIL 6 November, 2019 No Comments It’s funny to see the English press absolutely drooling over Brendan Rodgers and his Leicester team just now. Things are going quite well, but it’s almost like they’ve totally forgotten about his history. His teams always start well before starting to fade. It happened at Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and even at Celtic. It’s not clear if the opposition work out how to play against him or if his players just start to give up on him. His smug faux-intelligent appearance and approach can’t last forever. Liverpool completely collapsed after a while and few would bet against it happening again. Leicester are doing well, but let’s not forget they’re a big distance away from the top of the league and the bigger teams are starting to sort themselves out. If Arsenal, Man United and Spurs sort themselves out then Leicester will be headed straight back for mid table irrelevancy. Time will tell if he actually manages to break his regular cycle and goes on to be a long term success down south. One thing for sure is Celtic managed to get a decent amount of compensation for him. According to a report by Leicester Mercury, The Foxes paid a sum of £8.8m to take Rodgers and his management team from Glasgow. Who would you rather spend the money on? When you consider that Sky Sports reported that Celtic paid around £9m to sign Eddy from PSG, that sum for Rodgers looks like a brilliant piece of business from Celtic’s point of view. Eddy will only go on to increase his value and make the club a giant profit. Rodgers has a history of fizzling out after two seasons. Let’s see in a couple of seasons who made the better investment. https://thecelticstar.com/accounts-confirm-celtic-received-8-8m-for-brenda-as-he-sought-return-to-mediocrity/ I mean, he's not wrong though is he? Receiving £8.8m for a manager who's job could be filled by any tw*t in a Glasgow park is good business. In fact "Eddy" could well be Eddy from Customer Services, he'd still be knocking in 20+ goals in that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eamonn Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Leeds Fox said: They’re chuffed with £8.8m for what was the best asset at the club. In reality, they’ve become a feeder club for mid-table PL teams. In Glasgow, they’re still a European powerhouse. I’d be bitter too. Is there a more deluded set of fans than those at Celtic? Lennon did a great job for us but there wasn't a long queue for him before they reappointed him. Edited 6 November 2019 by Eamonn typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paninistickers Posted 6 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 6 November 2019 2 hours ago, Raw Dykes said: Thanks. Excellent reply! I do sometimes think about how we'll revert to type at some point, and how I'd better just enjoy the halcyon days while they're here, but then I remind myself that it might well not be a flash in the pan this time. I agree - we're not the same as all the other similarly-sized clubs that have come up to the PL, looked to have established themselves, only to fade away eventually. We're different. They didn't have the best owners a football club could ever dream of having. We do. That's what sets us apart. They've recruited excellently. I can't give them enough credit for hiring the best people possible and investing so much into the club. Agreed - credit should go to Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh for stripping the workings of the club down and building the most well-oiled, efficient, beast of an engine. It's thanks to this that a club our size can compete with the nation's goliaths, running on a fraction of the fuel. Credit to everyone at the club for recognising its value and keeping it serviced regularly (Have I driven this analogy into the ground yet?). Absolutely right. Soton are our canary down the mine. They've been in a similar position to us now, but were too easily pushed over when they needed to stand firm. Couldn't ask for a better football club to follow. Feel sorry for fans of any other club. Any other club. They don't know what they're missing. I've always been if the opinion that at some point, we'd revert to type. Back in 2014 and promotion, I was hoping at best for a 20 year PL stay, just bobbing about. But I am starting to wonder if the club is changing its DNA. Chelsea did and are probably the nearest example of converting from middle rankers to big team. And prove its possible. They were what West ham are now. Then owner Ken Bates recruited Glenn Hoddle and started spending Matthew Harding's money. They won F A Cups and the European cup winner's cup(I miss that old beauty of a trophy) and only then did Abramovic come in and set alight the turbo chargers Basically, are we in the process of becoming a Europe wide known provincial team like Schalke or Sampdoria or Valencia? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 31 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said: Couldn't ask for a better football club to follow. Feel sorry for fans of any other club. Any other club. They don't know what they're missing. ...and the positive effect is that kids don't need to buy the merchandise and attach themselves to some other club from a different place. Why would they need to when their own club is so good and accessible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyfox Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 On 05/11/2019 at 08:52, Finnegan said: Wrighty has always been a fan. One of the few pundits back in 15/16 to actually accept we were a good team and not some sort of picture book freak miracle. He's a fan of Vardy because he recognises he's a top striker not because he's some Roy of the Rovers happy story. Not sure Wrighty was a fan THAT night of the 3-3 when Walshie run to the Arsenal bench in injury time😄😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 28 minutes ago, Eamonn said: Is there a more deluded set of fans than those at Celtic? Lennon did a great job for us but there wasn't a long queue for him before they reappointed him. Hope they can keep the Upper Deck of Celtic Park open. Rodgers opened that deck by creating excitement for the supporters. Closed for I don't know how long before he arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 1 hour ago, urban fox said: But they are not bitter about it If a miracle happened and they made it into the CL wouldn't you just love to get drawn in the same group. Perhaps we could rotate and send out an academy squad to rest the first team for the hard games You never know. Rodgers got them to the group stages twice. Before the CEO Lawwell started hiding the profits in his mattress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 1 hour ago, urban fox said: But they are not bitter about it If a miracle happened and they made it into the CL wouldn't you just love to get drawn in the same group. Perhaps we could rotate and send out an academy squad to rest the first team for the hard games Oh **** no. First team and give them a thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 3 hours ago, davieG said: Accounts confirm Celtic received £8.8m for Brenda as he sought return to mediocrity By TOM MCNEIL 6 November, 2019 No Comments Leicester are doing well, but let’s not forget they’re a big distance away from the top of the league and the bigger teams are starting to sort themselves out. If Arsenal, Man United and Spurs sort themselves out then Leicester will be headed straight back for mid table irrelevancy. https://thecelticstar.com/accounts-confirm-celtic-received-8-8m-for-brenda-as-he-sought-return-to-mediocrity/ Cant be a proper journo - repeats the same phrase in the following sentence .... mind you, a Scotsman perhaps finds it tough to write English ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raw Dykes Posted 6 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 6 November 2019 43 minutes ago, Spudulike said: ...and the positive effect is that kids don't need to buy the merchandise and attach themselves to some other club from a different place. Why would they need to when their own club is so good and accessible. Absolutely! It's hard to imagine any kid in the county who's just getting into football right now not picking us as their team. I bet there's been plenty of Leicester-based, glory-grabbing dads trying to encourage their kid to become a Man Utd or Arsenal fan, and they've been unintentionally schooled hard by their own offspring, just by using basic logic. The sort of logic and reason that you have before you get sucked into becoming a fan. I hadn't given it much thought, but if we can carry on this sort of success, glory supporting in the county could all but die out eventually. You'd have to be off your nut to pick Man Utd over Leicester right now if you're from Leicester. Man Utd fans must get the piss ripped out of them daily in Leics. schools, surely? Just imagine. They'll be no end of converts. It could have a huge effect. If you think about how many glory hunters there were at your school, and imagine most of them would probably be Leicester fans if it was today. It's a seismic shift. We're going to need a bigger stadium. I'm guessing there's plenty of royal blue shirts around Derbyshire, Notts and Cov these days, as well. What a time to be alive! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 6 November 2019 Share Posted 6 November 2019 1 minute ago, Raw Dykes said: Absolutely! It's hard to imagine any kid in the county who's just getting into football right now not picking us as their team. I bet there's been plenty of Leicester-based, glory-grabbing dads trying to encourage their kid to become a Man Utd or Arsenal fan, and they've been unintentionally schooled hard by their own offspring, just by using basic logic. The sort of logic and reason that you have before you get sucked into becoming a fan. I hadn't given it much thought, but if we can carry on this sort of success, glory supporting in the county could all but die out eventually. You'd have to be off your nut to pick Man Utd over Leicester right now if you're from Leicester. Man Utd fans must get the piss ripped out of them daily in Leics. schools, surely? Just imagine. They'll be no end of converts. It could have a huge effect. If you think about how many glory hunters there were at your school, and imagine most of them would probably be Leicester fans if it was today. It's a seismic shift. We're going to need a bigger stadium. I'm guessing there's plenty of royal blue shirts around Derbyshire, Notts and Cov these days, as well. What a time to be alive! I think that probably depends on your age. it is a bit of a millennial thing i think since the advent of the premier league. There would always be a smattering, but when i was at school nearly everyone supported City (and we didn't even have a football team, strictly Rugby and cricket). That said we were a decent side in the seventies and we watched star soccer on a sunday afternoon which was a regional ITV programme so plenty of exposure for local teams. Can't blame some of the "snowflakes" for turning to the man utds etc as they were playing some great football while we were in all honesty pretty sh*te for an entire generation of teenagers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 In year 7 in a cohort of about 200 there was about 5 March going fans. Now that number would 3 or 4 times higher if they could get tickets. Our progress won’t always be as stratospheric so we need to expand the ground whilst we’re on the up to build a bigger and longer term fanbase. If I never went as a kid (my first games were around the mid 2000s, what a treat the football was ) there’s no way I’d be interested in following a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 10 hours ago, Paninistickers said: I've always been if the opinion that at some point, we'd revert to type. Back in 2014 and promotion, I was hoping at best for a 20 year PL stay, just bobbing about. But I am starting to wonder if the club is changing its DNA. Chelsea did and are probably the nearest example of converting from middle rankers to big team. And prove its possible. They were what West ham are now. Then owner Ken Bates recruited Glenn Hoddle and started spending Matthew Harding's money. They won F A Cups and the European cup winner's cup(I miss that old beauty of a trophy) and only then did Abramovic come in and set alight the turbo chargers Basically, are we in the process of becoming a Europe wide known provincial team like Schalke or Sampdoria or Valencia? I'd agree with most of that, sauf the last part. Sampdoria have a nutter for an owner and are living off past glory days, and are Serie A mediocrity personified. A bit like West Ham in the Premier League. Schalke I have little sympathies for, maybe most for missing out on winning the Bundesliga title in 2000/2001 on the very last second on the very last day. Other than that, and I'm exaggerating here, they are the one Bundesliga team that always finishes second, but never first. Bit like Tottenham. I'd also compare Schalke to Yorkshire teams due to the mining connection. If we can emulate Valencia's domestic success, that'd be sweet. They tend to play great football. Win the league a few more times, play in Europe more or less regularly and maybe one day aspire to win a European title. There's also similarities between the two clubs based on the change of ownership. Peter Lim strikes me as committed as the Srivaddhanaprabhas. The team I'd look to as a comparison the most is Montpellier in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrytaggart Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 14 hours ago, davieG said: Accounts confirm Celtic received £8.8m for Brenda as he sought return to mediocrity By TOM MCNEIL 6 November, 2019 No Comments It’s funny to see the English press absolutely drooling over Brendan Rodgers and his Leicester team just now. Things are going quite well, but it’s almost like they’ve totally forgotten about his history. His teams always start well before starting to fade. It happened at Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and even at Celtic. It’s not clear if the opposition work out how to play against him or if his players just start to give up on him. His smug faux-intelligent appearance and approach can’t last forever. Liverpool completely collapsed after a while and few would bet against it happening again. Leicester are doing well, but let’s not forget they’re a big distance away from the top of the league and the bigger teams are starting to sort themselves out. If Arsenal, Man United and Spurs sort themselves out then Leicester will be headed straight back for mid table irrelevancy. Time will tell if he actually manages to break his regular cycle and goes on to be a long term success down south. One thing for sure is Celtic managed to get a decent amount of compensation for him. According to a report by Leicester Mercury, The Foxes paid a sum of £8.8m to take Rodgers and his management team from Glasgow. Who would you rather spend the money on? When you consider that Sky Sports reported that Celtic paid around £9m to sign Eddy from PSG, that sum for Rodgers looks like a brilliant piece of business from Celtic’s point of view. Eddy will only go on to increase his value and make the club a giant profit. Rodgers has a history of fizzling out after two seasons. Let’s see in a couple of seasons who made the better investment. https://thecelticstar.com/accounts-confirm-celtic-received-8-8m-for-brenda-as-he-sought-return-to-mediocrity/ Celtic are carrying on like a bitter ex girlfriend. Just give it up you loons. Brendan leaving for little Old Leicester city has highlighted just how insignificant they are as a club and they cannot stand it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post egg_fried_rice Posted 7 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 7 November 2019 https://sport.optus.com.au/articles/os943/storey-on-rodgers The Brendan Rodgers effect: Leicester's relentlessness key to meteoric rise Crystal Palace were Leicester City’s bogey team. In the last four meetings between the two clubs, Leicester had lost each one and conceded a total of 13 goals. That included a 5-0 defeat at Selhurst Park and a 4-1 home defeat in February. Palace’s home form had been one of the surprises of the season so far. The signing of Gary Cahill had transformed their defensive resilience. In five home league games, Palace had conceded only three goals. So, of course, Leicester won 2-0 with the minimum of fuss. This is the true Brendan Rodgers effect. Not the transformation of Jamie Vardy into a striker who conserves his energy for when Leicester need it most and so has been adeptly refined. Not in the wonderful form of Caglar Soyuncu, whose large jaw and muscular frame makes him look like the love interest in a Disney film. Not even in the record away win at St. Mary’s. But in the recent relentlessness of Leicester’s form and the desperation of every player to impress their manager and so remain an integral part of this rise. Sunday brought with it a serious test of Leicester’s credentials. They answered every one as if it were a routine training exercise. Leicester have now won four straight games, and registered consecutive away clean sheets for only the second time since winning the title. They have won all but two of their matches in all competitions since the end of August. But it is the style of their wins that is most impressive. They brush aside teams with the ease of a domestic giant in rude health. During the 14 months before Rodgers was appointed, Leicester won by more than two clear goals against a current Premier League team once. In the last five weeks, they have done it twice. ***** There is a childish myth that every animal has a certain amount of heartbeats in their lifetime, at which point they will expire. It supposedly explains why smaller animals with faster heart rates live less long. At an average of 80 beats per minute, no human ever born will have had more than six billion; perhaps that is our limit? It’s nonsense, of course. You don’t die because you run out of heartbeats, you run out of heartbeats because you die. The same cod science can be applied to sport. A team has a finite number of heartbeats to use up during a season before they are guaranteed to fall flat on their faces, and heart rates are raised when games are tight and tense. Keep living on the edge and you will eventually topple over it. The key lies in winning comfortably, saving your resources of good fortune and fitness until you really need them. Rodgers knows that theory only too well. In 2013/14, his Liverpool team succeeded through glorious chaos. During their 11-game winning run that preceded the shambolic scenes against Chelsea and Crystal Palace, Rodgers’ team won three games 3-2, one 4-3, one 6-3 and were twice left hanging on to 2-1 wins. They should have beaten Chelsea (26 shots to 11, double the number of shots on target, 14-2 on corners) at Anfield, but they eventually came unstuck. They ran out of heartbeats. So far at Leicester, there are signs that Rodgers has learnt from his Liverpool experience. It says something for the high bar set by Liverpool and Manchester City that Rodgers’ Liverpool took 2.2 points per game in 2013/14 and missed out on the title by two points. Leicester are currently on 2.1 points per game and are eight points behind the leaders. The full-backs attack together but make sure to sprint back into position. Jonny Evans and Soyuncu have already formed a brilliant central defensive partnership, but are protected expertly by Wilfried Ndidi. Jamie Vardy has been taught not to sprint as madly. James Maddison is the prime creator, but competition for places is getting more out of Ayoze Perez, Demarai Gray and Harvey Barnes. If Leicester lack the superstars of that Liverpool team, they do not suffer much for it. They rank and second for goals scored, joint-first for goals conceded. Evidence of their hard work lies in the number of tackles made - 247. The gap between them and the second-placed club by that measure is the same as the gap between second and 12th. The highest-ranked player in the league for tackles and interceptions combined is Ndidi, with 86. Second is Ricardo Pereira, with 68. The highest figure for a non-Leicester player is 64. Rodgers might be keen to avoid comparisons with the title-winning season, but Ndidi is playing the N’Golo Kante role majestically. This is a team in the true sense of that word, brilliance through efficiency and harmony. There are still issues to solve, most notably the sluggish, safety-first performance at Old Trafford that raised questions of whether Rodgers needed a better Plan B. But Leicester matched Liverpool at Anfield and overcame Tottenham at the King Power. Much like 2015/16, enough Big Six clubs are in stasis or flux or crisis to give Leicester hope that they can crash the party. There are few reasons to be afraid of the 17 clubs below them. This Saturday Leicester City face Arsenal in a fixture of opposites: a club on the up vs a club floundering for relevance; a manager who has a defined plan for how they play vs one still at odds with his own identity; a support who believes that their club is intent on moving in the right direction and becoming the best it can be once again vs one suffering the dark mood of disillusionment. Very few will be backing the established big club to prevail. Reputation means nothing these days; action is everything. Nobody at the King Power is talking of the top four or top six. Placing expectations on the shoulders of a team and manager only risks weighing it down. But just nine months into Leicester City’s Brendan Rodgers project, he is already exceeding expectations and redeeming a reputation that barely needed any redemption. The other reason not to discuss ambitions for this season is that there is no limit to how far Leicester can rise. This club knows that more than any other. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 I wish i'd have got into this blogging malarkey when it started to become popular. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 6 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: I wish i'd have got into this blogging malarkey when it started to become popular. Just write something controversial with a clickbaiting headline and hey presto, you are a blogger. Fvck writing it well or putting any critical thinking into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 Surely that Celtic article is from The Onion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 17 hours ago, davieG said: Accounts confirm Celtic received £8.8m for Brenda as he sought return to mediocrity By TOM MCNEIL 6 November, 2019 No Comments It’s funny to see the English press absolutely drooling over Brendan Rodgers and his Leicester team just now. Things are going quite well, but it’s almost like they’ve totally forgotten about his history. His teams always start well before starting to fade. It happened at Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and even at Celtic. It’s not clear if the opposition work out how to play against him or if his players just start to give up on him. His smug faux-intelligent appearance and approach can’t last forever. Liverpool completely collapsed after a while and few would bet against it happening again. Leicester are doing well, but let’s not forget they’re a big distance away from the top of the league and the bigger teams are starting to sort themselves out. If Arsenal, Man United and Spurs sort themselves out then Leicester will be headed straight back for mid table irrelevancy. Time will tell if he actually manages to break his regular cycle and goes on to be a long term success down south. One thing for sure is Celtic managed to get a decent amount of compensation for him. According to a report by Leicester Mercury, The Foxes paid a sum of £8.8m to take Rodgers and his management team from Glasgow. Who would you rather spend the money on? When you consider that Sky Sports reported that Celtic paid around £9m to sign Eddy from PSG, that sum for Rodgers looks like a brilliant piece of business from Celtic’s point of view. Eddy will only go on to increase his value and make the club a giant profit. Rodgers has a history of fizzling out after two seasons. Let’s see in a couple of seasons who made the better investment. https://thecelticstar.com/accounts-confirm-celtic-received-8-8m-for-brenda-as-he-sought-return-to-mediocrity/ Even if Rodgers does fizzle out, which I doubt, it's touching to know Celtic are worried for us about our £8.8m investment when we could recoup that by selling one of James Maddison's toenails. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime_Coatsworth Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 1 hour ago, Babylon said: Surely that Celtic article is from The Onion? It reads more like a reader-writes from an old Smash Hits or Jackie.... Can just hear the bitter Celtic fans telling each other "he was shit anyway" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Foxed Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 celtic fans are weirdos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxFossil Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 3 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: I wish i'd have got into this blogging malarkey when it started to become popular. No. This interweb thingy is just a passing phase, steer clear if I was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox1970 Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 (edited) Without going into full lecturing mode, Celtic, being the club of the Irish diaspora, representing a strange mix of fierce Irish/Scottish historical nationalism, will always have an issue with what they see as the imperial English - mostly because of the British (aka English) occupation of Ireland -both before Irish independence and after It's continually maintained by the Catholic sectarianism in Glasgow and other RC areas of Scotland, which reinforces these beliefs from a very early age (just as Rangers' fans are inculcated into a partisan anti-RC Protestant life). I did live in Glasgow for a time, and for a mild and effete Englishman, I was surprised by how religiously bigoted society was, and is. The bottom line is that Celtic, with "illusions of grandeur", to quote a former manager of ours, have been mortally offended by Rogers traitorously scuttling off to the historical enemy, and a smaller club as well. This will rankled for a few decades or so, maybe longer! We must hope we don't draw them in the Champions League...... Edited 7 November 2019 by Fox1970 spelling! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Fox Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 I would love to get Celtic in the Champions League. Imagine going up there and smashing them 9-0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 7 November 2019 Share Posted 7 November 2019 11 minutes ago, Fox1970 said: Without going into full lecturing mode, Celtic, being the club of the Irish diaspora, representing a strange mix of fierce Irish/Scottish historical nationalism, will always have an issue with what they see as the imperial English - mostly because of the British (aka English) occupation of Ireland -both before Irish independence and after It's continually maintained by the Catholic sectarianism in Glasgow and other RC areas of Scotland, which reinforces these beliefs from a very early age (just as Rangers' fans are inculcated into a partisan anti-RC Protestant life). I did live in Glasgow for a time, and for a mild and effete Englishman, I was surprised by how religiously bigoted society was, and is. The bottom line is that Celtic, with "illusions of grandeur", to quote a former manager of ours, have been mortally offended by Rogers traitorously scuttling off to the historical enemy, and a smaller club as well. This will rankled for a few decades or so, maybe longer! We must hope we don't draw them in the Champions League...... I'd absolutely love to go and watch us beat them at Celtic Park 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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