Manchester City Found Guilty Of Almost All Charges

[OntarioFox]

26 minutes ago, em9999 said:

Man city have been forever tarnished every cup they have won may as well be chucked in the bin its worthless 

 

Pep is proven as a fraud who knew what was coming 

 

No matter the punishment 

 

Its proven they are scum bags and deserve dogs abuse from every fan in UK 

They were due that purely for signing that bellsniff Enzo Fernandes, but yes this does make it easier to hate them 

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, splinterdream said:

Tielemens would probably have signed a new contract and kept himself fit, rodgers wouldn't have downed tools, we wouldn't have gone for the players we did, we wouldn't have got relegated 

At what about when that cycle came to an end? Top would have been smart and Rudkin competent? Nope.

 

We got relegated out of the championship, there is no level they won’t run the club badly at.

[String fellow]

Man-cheats-er City!

[urban.spaceman]

20 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I don’t get those who think we’ve been wronged 

all the charges were from pre 2019

 

you could argue that Man City shouldn’t have been in a position to compete at the levels they were when we were trying for top four but that’s a stretch 

 

19 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Correct 

uefa’s rules have a time bar 

 

premier league does not 

These charges prove the UEFA charges were correct. That European ban should clearly have stood. We should have had 2 seasons of Champions League football. 

[trooky]

How can the premier league continue if they've aloud a club to break the rules for 14 seasons?

 

This level of incompetence doesn't reflect well on them, time for the independant regulator to step in. 

 

[Nalis]

I get stripping titles but if other teams who finished 2nd get awarded a trophy it would feel proper participation award

Edited Friday at 17:44 by Nalis

[urban.spaceman]

24 minutes ago, trooky said:

How can the premier league continue if they've aloud a club to break the rules for 14 seasons?

 

This level of incompetence doesn't reflect well on them, time for the independant regulator to step in. 

 

Two of their biggest clubs have been cheating for a generation each. 
 

One they spent 5 full years investigating mostly in secret before bringing charges that would take another 3 and a half years to finally find them guilty of. And that’s just the 2009-2018 period - they haven’t even started investigating them for their post 2018 conduct. 
 

And the other they didn’t even find out about until a few years after their owner was forced out by his association with Putin and his war, when the new owners brought them proof of 13 years worth of cheating after having secured a £150m discount explicitly to pay for anticipated fines. They had illegally spent £50m on 10 players over the course of 13 years, who they sold for a £250m profit. With those 10 players Chelsea won 2 Premier Leagues, 2 FA Cups, 2 Champions Leagues, 2 UEFA Leagues and a Club World Cup, but they didn’t believe Chelsea gained a sporting advantage. 

An initial 15 points deduction was commuted to a financial penalty of about a 5th of what they spent illegally.

 

Meanwhile their most infamous winner was pursued for four seasons with a psychotic vengeance with the claim they gained a sporting advantage in a season in which they were relegated (after the Premier League delayed Everton’s points deduction till after that season), colluding with the EFL and breaking their own rules at least 4 times before proving in their own words that Leicester hadn’t broken any at all. They then changed the rules retrospectively, finding that club guilty of breaking rules that didn’t exist at the time and issuing a 6 points deduction penalty that relegated them to League One. 
 

This farce cannot continue.

Edited Friday at 17:58 by urban.spaceman

[Chelmofox]

34 minutes ago, Stadt said:

At what about when that cycle came to an end? Top would have been smart and Rudkin competent? Nope.

 

We got relegated out of the championship, there is no level they won’t run the club badly at.

hmm, if Youri was playing Champions league i think it would have definitely changed things. I think there would have been a new deal and he would have likely gone for a fee at a later date.

 

But finishing 4th may have helped the finances, but does not change how poor we were at recruiting. Would we have still bought Daka and Soumare if we were in the CL - i think we probably would have and assumed they would be able to step up. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Whether it’s soon or in 3-5 years we will get compensation for this, no doubt. 

[splinterdream]

38 minutes ago, Stadt said:

At what about when that cycle came to an end? Top would have been smart and Rudkin competent? Nope.

 

We got relegated out of the championship, there is no level they won’t run the club badly at.

There was 3 major fundamental errors Rudkin and Top made which led to our downfall. 

-Giving Rodgers a contact at the level they did without any clauses in it.

-Giving Rodgers so much power with player aquasitions. 

-Giving the players the contracts they did without any clauses in them. 

 

They were all born out of ambition, but it could be argued they wasn't ambitious enough. We needed signings in those january transfer windows to strengthen to stay in the top 4 and didnt.

 

Clubs like Newcastle and Villa have demonstrated how difficult it is to challenge and stay at that level, this is not to excuse Rudkin and Aiyawatt.

[st albans fox]

39 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

These charges prove the UEFA charges were correct. That European ban should clearly have stood. We should have had 2 seasons of Champions League football. 

UEFA should have bought the charge earlier and ensured that sanctions were imposed within the period they could be. 
 

Man City were never absolved from breaking the uefa rules 

The sanctions were never imposed on a technicality 

 

 

[urban.spaceman]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

UEFA should have bought the charge earlier and ensured that sanctions were imposed within the period they could be. 
 

Man City were never absolved from breaking the uefa rules 

The sanctions were never imposed on a technicality 

 

 

UEFA tried to bring the case earlier but Manchester City used the legal process to obfuscate the investigation to delay any charges for years. The exact same behaviour with the Premier League. 

 

Both authorities have failed to implement their rules and hold brazen cheats accountable for almost two decades now. 

 

Failures that have had catastrophic consequences for us. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

28 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Whether it’s soon or in 3-5 years we will get compensation for this, no doubt. 

Not a chance 

[Nalis]

29 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Whether it’s soon or in 3-5 years we will get compensation for this, no doubt. 

If that is the case, if KP sell by then they will want a slice of it from LCFC Ltd no doubt

Edited Friday at 18:28 by Nalis

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

28 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Whether it’s soon or in 3-5 years we will get compensation for this, no doubt. 

[Muzzy_no7]

3 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Precedent has been set with Burnley’s case with Everton

 

6 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Not a chance 

🤷‍♂️

[trooky]

45 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Two of their biggest clubs have been cheating for a generation each. 
 

One they spent 5 full years investigating mostly in secret before bringing charges that would take another 3 and a half years to finally find them guilty of. And that’s just the 2009-2018 period - they haven’t even started investigating them for their post 2018 conduct. 
 

And the other they didn’t even find out about until a few years after their owner was forced out by his association with Putin and his war, when the new owners brought them proof of 13 years worth of cheating after having secured a £150m discount explicitly to pay for anticipated fines. They had illegally spent £50m on 10 players over the course of 13 years, who they sold for a £250m profit. With those 10 players Chelsea won 2 Premier Leagues, 2 FA Cups, 2 Champions Leagues, 2 UEFA Leagues and a Club World Cup, but they didn’t believe Chelsea gained a sporting advantage. 

An initial 15 points deduction was commuted to a financial penalty of about a 5th of what they spent illegally.

 

Meanwhile their most infamous winner was pursued for four seasons with a psychotic vengeance with the claim they gained a sporting advantage in a season in which they were relegated (after the Premier League delayed Everton’s points deduction till after that season), colluding with the EFL and breaking their own rules at least 4 times before proving in their own words that Leicester hadn’t broken any at all. They then changed the rules retrospectively, finding that club guilty of breaking rules that didn’t exist at the time and issuing a 6 points deduction penalty that relegated them to League One. 
 

This farce cannot continue.

I really hope the PL get punished and loose control through this farce. 

 

They very were happy using Citeh to grow their brand, and equally quick to throw them to the wolves in an attempt to cling to power. 

[Lambert09]

Apparently there’s one man responsible for all 114 and as any punishment would affect the fans they’ve decided to punish the individual instead. 
 

premier league looking to personally fine and deduct points form their club so that it effects him now.

 

 

bloody James McCarron 

Edited Friday at 18:35 by Lambert09

[The boy Linacre]

4 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

We no doubt will argue we would never have been relegated if we’d got back into the champions league. 
 

There are so many different legal routes for different teams. It should never have got to this level and taken so long. 

Absolutely, those 2 years of Champions League football would have an enormous impact over those seasons, we almost certainly wouldn’t have gone down.

[David Hankey]

'The Noisy Neighbours' are not so noisy now.

[jayfox26]

But if we sue, who will Nick De Marco represent? 

[jayfox26]

4 minutes ago, The boy Linacre said:

Absolutely, those 2 years of Champions League football would have an enormous impact over those seasons, we almost certainly wouldn’t have gone down.

100%. Rodgers could have had more money and wouldn't have thrown his toys out. Even just signing Lookman could have made a difference. 

[AyewJoking]

find them guilty of almost everything and let them worm their way out via appeal

 

[WorcesterBlue]

I would like to see as a punishment the bulldozing of the Etihad, the hanging of all the directors by their toenails. Plus the club receiving a 50 point deduction for the next 20 years. 

Or am I over reacting ?

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, trooky said:

How can the premier league continue if they've aloud a club to break the rules for 14 seasons?

 

This level of incompetence doesn't reflect well on them, time for the independant regulator to step in. 

 

Enter the super league….. this could pave the way for a closed shop international PES style league….. I’m adamant it will happen at some point…..