League One - Who manages us?

[ian__marshall]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

The fact that nearly the whole organisation comes to a grinding hault every late Spring early Summer year on year is a huge problem. 

Agreed, I find it grossly negligent that we hear rumblings of key figures being away from the building year after year around this time, with the justification that people need to take time away. It's farcical. As an example, you wouldn't expect emergency service workers to routinely take time off over weekends or refuse night shifts. It comes with the responsibilities of the job. The key figures at the club are paid handsomely to make sacrifices, why can't they simply take a break in the 2 week window immediately after the campaign ends, so that everyone is back ready to go again from mid May?

 

The planning is horrendous. Yet again whoever comes in is going to have a huge job to do, not only in terms of clearing up the mess, but even in terms of player conditioning. I fear once more we'll be entering the season with a group of players who are simply not up to speed physically and will not be able to compete at the required levels both in game and over the course of the season. 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:55 by ian__marshall

[MPH]

25 minutes ago, ian__marshall said:

Agreed, I find it grossly negligent that we hear rumblings of key figures being away from the building year after year around this time, with the justification that people need to take time away. It's farcical. As an example, you wouldn't expect emergency service workers to routinely take time off over weekends or refuse night shifts. It comes with the responsibilities of the job. The key figures at the club are paid handsomely to make sacrifices, why can't they simply take a break in the 2 week window immediately after the campaign ends, so that everyone is back ready to go again from mid May?

 

The planning is horrendous. Yet again whoever comes in is going to have a huge job to do, not only in terms of clearing up the mess, but even in terms of player conditioning. I fear once more we'll be entering the season with a group of players who are simply not up to speed physically and will not be able to compete at the required levels both in game and over the course of the season. 

 

 

Nah, that’s just daft. Family life and mental health is far more important. Let them have a holiday.

 

 

better now than in the middle of the season, don’t you think? Or the week before the transfer window closes?

[LestaLad]

I’m not saying this is what’s happening, but before we appointed Marti, Percy said Gary O’Neil and Chris Wilder are both on the shortlist and we all thought we were appointing one of them, it looked certain it was O’Neil for a minute. But then next thing we know, Marti is getting the job. 

So yes, I’m speaking from hope here, but we could well see another name like Challinor come out of the blue and we end up getting him.

[DezFox]

8 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

Nah, that’s just daft. Family life and mental health is far more important. Let them have a holiday.

 

 

better now than in the middle of the season, don’t you think? Or the week before the transfer window closes?

I would argue it far better for rudkin to go in holiday mid season 

[S1DDO]

Is Rowett still under contract?

[Chelmofox]

44 minutes ago, ian__marshall said:

Agreed, I find it grossly negligent that we hear rumblings of key figures being away from the building year after year around this time, with the justification that people need to take time away. It's farcical. As an example, you wouldn't expect emergency service workers to routinely take time off over weekends or refuse night shifts. It comes with the responsibilities of the job. The key figures at the club are paid handsomely to make sacrifices, why can't they simply take a break in the 2 week window immediately after the campaign ends, so that everyone is back ready to go again from mid May?

 

The planning is horrendous. Yet again whoever comes in is going to have a huge job to do, not only in terms of clearing up the mess, but even in terms of player conditioning. I fear once more we'll be entering the season with a group of players who are simply not up to speed physically and will not be able to compete at the required levels both in game and over the course of the season. 

 

Are these rumblings just made up stuff on here, or do we have proof that no one is working?

[ClaphamFox]

5 minutes ago, LestaLad said:

I’m not saying this is what’s happening, but before we appointed Marti, Percy said Gary O’Neil and Chris Wilder are both on the shortlist and we all thought we were appointing one of them, it looked certain it was O’Neil for a minute. But then next thing we know, Marti is getting the job. 

So yes, I’m speaking from hope here, but we could well see another name like Challinor come out of the blue and we end up getting him.

I can definitely see it not being Martin. The negotiations we've supposedly been having with him have been dragging on for weeks, which suggests there may be obstacles to getting this appointment done. Unfortunately I don't see them flipping from Martin to Challinor. It seems the reason Top wants Martin is because he has decided we were heading in the right direction with Enzo's style of play and that things went wrong because we strayed from that path. While Challinor's teams do play a kind of possession football, it's much more direct than either Enzo's or Martin's style. If we don't get Martin, I think we'll end up with somebody else who plays in a very similar way but possibly with even less pedigree. 

[Tuna]

10 minutes ago, S1DDO said:

Is Rowett still under contract?

Yes, until 30th of June (I think).

[Foxes1]

46 minutes ago, DezFox said:

I would argue it far better for rudkin to go in holiday mid season 

He does in January when the transfer window is open.

[SemperEadem]

36 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Are these rumblings just made up stuff on here, or do we have proof that no one is working?

Previously I was involved with meeting supporter services staff via a fan group. Granted not dealing with Jonny Boy on the regularly but the bigger decisions that needed to go up the chain never were able to be done as those were off on leave. Similar you get a barrage of bounce backs from email addresses at the club at this sort of time.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

they think we’re so much better than league 1 that we could hire ric and still piss the league

 

Ric reading this

[BlueBus]

5 hours ago, FoxKent_88 said:

with promotion at wembley? how awful,  

I've never like the guy, so I'm definitely being harsh on RM but this forum lost it's mind at Maresca's 2nd half of the season and we finished top! 

[Finnegan]

5 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Ric reading this

 

Tbf I'd rather Ric took the job, fed the entire squad ouzo and Fray Bentos, signed exclusively mazy wingers and dropped the average age of the team to 19 than have to suffer Russell ****ing Martin. 

 

[teblin]

Listening to WYS, is Josh Holland Russell Martins agent?

 

As also for each Eddie Howe there is a Steve Cooper.

Edited yesterday at 13:30 by teblin

[BlueBus]

2 minutes ago, teblin said:

Listening to WYS, is Josh Holland Russell Martins agent?

 

As also for each Eddie Howe there is a Steve Cooper.

He did a great job in representing Leicester City I think, completely ignored the feeling of the fans! It was really bizarre, he's new in the job, so I don't know if he's trying to cozy up to the club maybe? 

[AKCJ]

We're going to be playing  Aldi Man City football whether we like it or not. Aiyawatt is obsessed with the idea and it's why we've purposely hired McCarron from the City Group to be the new shield for Rudkin.

 

With that in mind, I do honestly think we're better off getting someone like Russell Martin in to attempt to achieve it. In the same way we did with Enzo. I'm not advocating for his style of play or thinking that we're going to achieve greatness with him in charge but he has a clear idealistic view that aligns with the club's.

 

He's clearly a huge prat and his football is dreary, but it's got to be better than getting in the next Rowett/Cooper/RVN etc and forcing them to play a style they have no experience with. Those three appointments have completely ****ed us because there has never been a thought given to "what if this doesn't work?". 

[Broof]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

Nah, that’s just daft. Family life and mental health is far more important. Let them have a holiday.

 

 

better now than in the middle of the season, don’t you think? Or the week before the transfer window closes?

Doesn't make any sense. What is there to do in the middle of the season for the board? The best moment to take some time off would surely be between the season starting and Christmas. 

[ClaphamFox]

15 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

We're going to be playing  Aldi Man City football whether we like it or not. Aiyawatt is obsessed with the idea and it's why we've purposely hired McCarron from the City Group to be the new shield for Rudkin.

 

With that in mind, I do honestly think we're better off getting someone like Russell Martin in to attempt to achieve it. In the same way we did with Enzo. I'm not advocating for his style of play or thinking that we're going to achieve greatness with him in charge but he has a clear idealistic view that aligns with the club's.

 

He's clearly a huge prat and his football is dreary, but it's got to be better than getting in the next Rowett/Cooper/RVN etc and forcing them to play a style they have no experience with. Those three appointments have completely ****ed us because there has never been a thought given to "what if this doesn't work?". 

I'm coming around to this view. If we're going to play this way—which we are—we may as well do it with Martin given he at least has a track record of giving opportunities to young players, which should be a pre-requisite of the job given the position we're in. If we manage to generate enough in sales to back him in the transfer market, he may even take us back up at the first attempt. It's what happens next that bothers me, but I guess that's just a bridge we'd have to cross when we come to it.

Having said all that, I still suspect he'll end up somewhere else.

 

Edited yesterday at 13:55 by ClaphamFox

[Pita]

5 minutes ago, Broof said:

Doesn't make any sense. What is there to do in the middle of the season for the board? The best moment to take some time off would surely be between the season starting and Christmas. 

Ruskin could have the whole year off. He won be missed 

[ian__marshall]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

Are these rumblings just made up stuff on here, or do we have proof that no one is working?

Apart for the silence and lack of action this year I can't say definitively whether they are or aren't away, however conversely there is no evidence of any action happening in the background to suggest otherwise. Additionally, we have seen evidence in the past of certain key figures either sat by a pool or playing polo at a time when their focus should have been on the job in hand, so it's not exactly a stretch to draw conclusions as to why it's taking so long to conclude a process virtually every other side seems to be able to complete within a maximum of a few weeks. 

[ian__marshall]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

Nah, that’s just daft. Family life and mental health is far more important. Let them have a holiday.

 

 

better now than in the middle of the season, don’t you think? Or the week before the transfer window closes?

What stops them taking a few weeks off with the family at the end of April? Not exactly like they are going to be holidaying in Skegness, so weather certainly isn't a factor. Considering their main roles are centred around planning and performance to succeed during the season ahead, I'd say the football off season is the time they should be getting down to business. 

[nnfox]

1 hour ago, S1DDO said:

Is Rowett still under contract?

It's not really clear.  He was given the job "until the end of the season" in mid Feb.  It's not clear if that means until the final whistle of the final game or the traditional end of June.  

 

What I do know is that we are well capable of giving someone a contract to do work for 2 and a half months and then pay them for 4 and a half months.

[MPH]

1 hour ago, DezFox said:

I would argue it far better for rudkin to go in holiday mid season 

 

I think he should go on holiday permanently 

[CosbehFox]

Every year we look unfit and unprepared as the season goes on. We all wonder why. 

[AjcW]

Feel like we’ve not touched on the worst case scenario here of this all going really well and us having to like Russell Martin eventually….