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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

These charges prove the UEFA charges were correct. That European ban should clearly have stood. We should have had 2 seasons of Champions League football. 

They don’t. UEFA charges are case closed. It was UEFAs own rules which overturned it. 
 

PL don’t administer entry into Champions League 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

Be interesting to see what the potential for a pay day that outstrips the purchase price of the club will do. Top might want to hang on, ask for more or it may create more interest.

My biggest fear in this.

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8 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Enter the super league….. this could pave the way for a closed shop international PES style league….. I’m adamant it will happen at some point….. 

Yes, this could speed up the process. City won't accept this without a fight.

 

Rather than face potential relegation down the leagues, I can see them financing a super league instead. 

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1 hour ago, Nalis said:

I get stripping titles but if other teams who finished 2nd get awarded a trophy it would feel proper participation award

Man U fans wont give a toss. Mostly because they were man city fans up until this ruling and were man u fans before Man City won the title.

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3 hours ago, Narborough Road Fox said:

Suggests that they could be placed in League Two.

Would be interesting, it'll be similar to when Rangers got kicked out the SPL and dropped to the bottom tier. Having to go over the border to play Berwick Rangers.

 

Sadly i do fear there lawyers will be working on something to avoid a strict punishment, probably like a huge a fine which to them is nothing. 

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1 hour ago, trooky said:

Yes, this could speed up the process. City won't accept this without a fight.

 

Rather than face potential relegation down the leagues, I can see them financing a super league instead. 

Good, get the rich 6 gone

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Just saying it now. 

 

Don't think this is good news for us. 

 

The rules Man City broke were the same rules designed to keep us in our place. 

 

Nothing positive for us will come of this. If there's any knock on to us, which I doubt, it'll be negative. 

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Rubbersoul said:

When does the inquest into referees and Man Utd under Fergie start 

And the very dodgy David Speedie penalty award in the 1992 play off final.Scandalous.

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Lol 😆 
 
 
 
 
 
🚨 NEW: Leicester City are set to seek over £1 Billion in damages after they missed out on Champions League Football in the 2019/2020 season, the season Man City were formally charged by the Premier League. Leicester lost out on Champions League football during a season City Show more
 
 
 
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Posted (edited)

Questions....

 

If the punishment is relegation, when does that happen? How will the accommodate them in? Extra team gets promoted? If they win a cup this season or win the premier league, what then? Do they stop them playing this season completely? 

 

If they get a points deduction this season, do they get a clean slate next season even if they're relegated? That doesn't seem fair. Or do the get points deduction again? What if they win the FA cup this season, do they play in Europe? 

 

One thing is for certain a lengthy transfer ban should be in place whatever else happens. Should be for years. 

 

They cheated full stop, but what a mess they have created. I feel for the fans

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3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

UEFA should have bought the charge earlier and ensured that sanctions were imposed within the period they could be. 
 

Man City were never absolved from breaking the uefa rules 

The sanctions were never imposed on a technicality 

 

 

I might be wrong but I think they were charged within the sanctionable period but then obfuscated and delayed proceedings until it was time barred.

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Delighted. It’ll be 6-12 months for the appeal to play out but then I can put a full stop on watching top level club football. 
 

It was a relief to give up my season ticket this summer after Top & Rudkin destroyed my love for the club. I’d naively hoped I could still enjoy PL football but I just can’t. 

 

The PL is and has been corrupt for years and a competition without a level playing field isn’t worth watching. 
 

Unfortunately for people like me, who’d like to enjoy international football on that basis, Infantino is doing his best to ruin  that too.

 

Because I’ve always loved the game, I’ll continue to watch Leagues One & Two & National League games for a while. Probably not for much longer.

 

Good job I enjoy cricket, athletics & tennis…

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37 minutes ago, em9999 said:
Lol 😆 
 
 
 
 
 
🚨 NEW: Leicester City are set to seek over £1 Billion in damages after they missed out on Champions League Football in the 2019/2020 season, the season Man City were formally charged by the Premier League. Leicester lost out on Champions League football during a season City Show more
 
 
 
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Id be careful on that. Only 1 source on that and its a twitter account. 

 

We missed out on CL football by a whisker twice, but 1 billion is insane. 

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for most premier league teams, I suspect they could make a claim stick that Man City should not have finished a place above them and hence they missed out on single place prize money - say £1m 

 

for most clubs the cost of pursuing this would make it not worth the effort and cost.  But then for us, we are desperate for every penny we can get. Whilst it would potentially take years for an appeal to be heard , we would very much like to negotiate on that £3m covering the three seasons we finished below them. 
 

thinking about the overall situation, the premier league, premier league clubs and Man City will be talking about the best and cheapest way of bringing this to a conclusion. The PL doesn’t want a dragged out expensive appeals process. 
 

I wonder if we could see a compensation package worked out for premier league clubs and Man City accepting sanctions such as a huge fine, significant points deduction (say 45 points) which they feel they can overcome and avoid relegation plus a two year transfer embargo. 
 

it’s not in the leagues interest for this to drag on and if Man City agree not to drag out an appeal in exchange for lesser sanctions then that could be where we’re headed. 

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4 minutes ago, ramboacdc said:

Id be careful on that. Only 1 source on that and its a twitter account. 

 

We missed out on CL football by a whisker twice, but 1 billion is insane. 

I assume he’s laughing at the nonsense twitter post 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, KansasFox said:

I might be wrong but I think they were charged within the sanctionable period but then obfuscated and delayed proceedings until it was time barred.

In July 2020, CAS overturned the European ban and reduced the fine to €10m based on two main findings:[1, 2]
  • Time-Barred Allegations: Under UEFA’s own rules, prosecutions for financial breaches must be brought within five years. Because UEFA’s charges (brought in 2019) focused heavily on activities between 2012 and 2016, CAS ruled that the oldest and most severe allegations of disguised equity funding had occurred too long ago to be legally prosecuted under UEFA statute. [1, 2]
  • Insufficient Evidence: For the allegations that did fall within the valid five-year window (and were not time-barred), CAS ruled that UEFA failed to provide "insufficient conclusive evidence" to prove that the club had disguised equity funds as sponsorship contributions. City was only penalized (€10m) for failing to cooperate with UEFA's investigation
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10 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

for most premier league teams, I suspect they could make a claim stick that Man City should not have finished a place above them and hence they missed out on single place prize money - say £1m 

 

for most clubs the cost of pursuing this would make it not worth the effort and cost.  But then for us, we are desperate for every penny we can get. Whilst it would potentially take years for an appeal to be heard , we would very much like to negotiate on that £3m covering the three seasons we finished below them. 
 

thinking about the overall situation, the premier league, premier league clubs and Man City will be talking about the best and cheapest way of bringing this to a conclusion. The PL doesn’t want a dragged out expensive appeals process. 
 

I wonder if we could see a compensation package worked out for premier league clubs and Man City accepting sanctions such as a huge fine, significant points deduction (say 45 points) which they feel they can overcome and avoid relegation plus a two year transfer embargo. 
 

it’s not in the leagues interest for this to drag on and if Man City agree not to drag out an appeal in exchange for lesser sanctions then that could be where we’re headed. 

Make them pay everyone for their titles again and still relegate them! Then keep going after them with more and more  points deductions until they hit the conference like they did with Luton.

Posted
1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

Just saying it now. 

 

Don't think this is good news for us. 

 

The rules Man City broke were the same rules designed to keep us in our place. 

 

Nothing positive for us will come of this. If there's any knock on to us, which I doubt, it'll be negative. 

 

Yep. This just cements the red cartel.

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