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The "do they mean us?" thread pt 2

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yorkie1999

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3 hours ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said:

 

Some banter, don't know if it's been posted before but from the comments the real East Midlands derby is Derby v Forest.

Well it would be, seeing as both clubs are in the lower divisions together and neither look like they're going anywhere soon.

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Stadt

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1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Interesting they highlighted the amount of chances that Puel's Southampton created but could've convert. Sounds very familiar.

 

The Hollow Man … good description.

It’s not a particularly good comparison as we struggled to create chances rather than convert them. The similaritity was the lack of scoring rather than chances but I suppose it’s all academic now 

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1 hour ago, Stadt said:

It’s not a particularly good comparison as we struggled to create chances rather than convert them. The similaritity was the lack of scoring rather than chances but I suppose it’s all academic now 

You must've missed the Spurs away match :rolleyes:

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Because I'm basically the unofficial president of the Daniel Storey fanclub, here's his latest piece on the cult of Brendan Rodgers: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/leicester-city-fc-brendan-rodgers-fulham-harvey-barnes/

 

When he was Swansea City manager, Brendan Rodgers did an interview for the Football Association’s website on the subject of his own philosophy. In the build-up to his first home game as Leicester City manager, the interview was re-published.


You might consider that his own philosophy is one of Rodgers’ favourite topics. The accusation is that Rodgers is a rampant egotist, the type of man who, when asked for his greatest inspiration, would think for a minute or two before saying “me, probably”. When he makes a joke, you can see his eyes momentarily scan for laughter.


It is certainly interesting to detect even then the concrete belief of the man. Rodgers did not know at that point that he would take Liverpool close to their first Premier League title before moving to Celtic, but you get the sense that he would probably have believed it had he been told at the time.


As well as defensive organisation, passing methods and attacking strategies, in that interview Rodgers spoke of his tendency to put faith in young players. “I started on a journey to try and make young players feel important and give them confidence to deal with the football,” Rodgers said. It is a piece of classic Rodgers speak, painting himself in a role somewhere between mentor, guru and cool stepdad.

 

But it also forms a significant part of Leicester’s attraction to Rodgers and the vice versa. Six of Leicester City’s starting XI against Fulham were aged 21 or 22. Claude Puel’s greatest crime was not losing matches or even producing typically turgid football, but wasting the enthusiasm and exuberance of youth that he had at his disposal. At that age, players can have their careers defined by their club managers. Under Puel, Leicester’s class of 2019 risked going stale.

 

This fountain of youth is no accident. Having slipped badly since their miraculous title victory, with heavy heart Leicester accepted that the stars of that season were way beyond their peak. The four most expensive players signed last summer were aged 21, 21, 22 and 24.

 

We will not see all of Rodgers’ fingerprints over the team this early in his reign, but green shoots of improvement were certainly visible. The intricate pass-and-move between James Maddison and Harvey Barnes was the game’s deciding factor.


Barnes has that tendency seen in so many young players to thrive when he plays on instinct and first touch. Maddison’s through ball to Vardy for their second goal drew a valedictory point from Rodgers, as the smile of player and manager were reflected. See, just like we discussed in training.

 

Tielemans’ expert passing through the lines only comes off when intelligent, inviting runs are made. Under Puel, that dynamism was badly and sadly lacking. If Rodgers can somehow persuade Tielemans to stay, we will do no better business this summer.


The cult of Rodgers demands buy in – players, staff, supporters. The reaction of Celtic fans was so fevered because they were desperate to believe that his ‘I am you and you are me’ spiel was true. That cult also explains Rodgers’ success with young players, typically more malleable and sponge-like and therefore more able to soak up his ideas. His rallying call is simple: trust me implicitly and we will go far.

 

But if Rodgers has been appointed to oversee long-term change, he possesses the perfect short-term fillip too. Vardy was the only outfield member of Leicester City’s first-choice starting XI in 2015/16 included in the team to face Fulham, but he is not for moving. His composure for the first goal and finishing for the second and third were majestic. Vardy is the example for the young players to follow, hard work and determination converted into excellence.


The Rodgers revolution – again, he would appreciate the term – cannot begin until next season. Between now and May, Rodgers has an extended period of prepatory analysis before a potentially busy summer. Only in 2019/20 will we see his team.

But when young players are passing in one and two-touch moves, and an expert striker looks happy after falling out with the previous manager, you can see why Leicester supporters might be wishing away the months until August. Glimpses of the future, and reminders of the recent glorious past.

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https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-citys-premier-league-title-2655698

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Liverpool star Steve McMahon says Leicester City's Premier League title win was a fluke
The Foxes shocked the world by completing their fairytale success almost three years ago under Claudio Ranieri


ByBarry Cooper
11:00, 18 MAR 2019UPDATED11:05, 18 MAR 2019

Former Liverpool star Steve McMahon believes Leicester City’s remarkable Premier League title win nearly three years ago was nothing more than a fluke.

McMahon also laid the boot into title-winning boss Claudio Ranieri, who led the Foxes to their greatest triumph in 2016 at odds of 5000/1.

Having left the King Power Stadium in 2017, the Italian made a shock return to English football when he took over at struggling Fulham in November, but couldn’t inspire a turnaround in fortunes, and was dismissed last month with Scott Parker assuming temporary control for the remainder of what looks to be a campaign which ends in an instant return to the Championship.

That, McMahon believes, was a strange decision to give the experienced former Chelsea and Nantes boss the reigns.


Claudio Ranieri during his final match in charge of Fulham, a 2-1 defeat to Southampton (Image: Steve Bardens/Getty Images)
Speaking to LFC TV ahead of Sunday’s 2-1 win for the Reds at Craven Cottage, McMahon spoke openly about his reservations with Ranieri.

“Why didn't they give it to him first time around?” questioned the former England man.

"Why Ranieri?

“OK, he did fantastic with Leicester, but that was a fluke – and everyone has seen that. 

"Give him [Scott Parker] the chance. He could have had seven or eight more games to see if he could turn it around and build for next season.


"He is young, enthusiastic, probably has loads of respect in the dressing room. My question would be, is he too nice?"

Parker has failed to arrest the slide at Fulham with defeat at home to Jurgen Klopp’s men seeing them 13 points from safety with just seven games remaining.

Ranieri, though, didn’t have to wait long for another job to come along, with Roma taking on the 67-year-old earlier in March.

"His [Ranieri’s] reward for being sacked at Fulham is Roma. How do you work that one out?” queried McMahon.

 

He probably makes a fair point about Ranieri's post LCFC jobs but his slagging off of our PL win smacks of jealousy considering how long it is since LFC won it.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-citys-premier-league-title-2655698

He probably makes a fair point about Ranieri's post LCFC jobs but his slagging off of our PL win smacks of jealousy considering how long it is since LFC won it.

 

 

There are times,where a special word has to be brought out to explain such outages from People like Sutton Mcmahon....it is unusually fitting...

but football pundits can't fail to achieve the infamy.....of winning the award and being of  the highest proclaimed Gents of their time....

Better known with that  all the characteristics that entwine and embroidere them as high class "TWATS. "

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Free Falling Foxes

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You do not 'fluke' something like a title win, it takes an entire season of matches. You can have favourable draws in cup competitions but the league is something else.

In any case, how many points did we win it by........

Rare and unlikely to be repeated by any other club like ours yes, fluke no.

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Mark 'expert' Lawrenson

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7 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

You do not 'fluke' something like a title win, it takes an entire season of matches. You can have favourable draws in cup competitions but the league is something else.

In any case, how many points did we win it by........

Rare and unlikely to be repeated by anyone, yes, fluke no.

Which is why I’m desperate for Liverpool to miss out again, way too many Scouse pundits getting frothed up and it’ll be unbearable.

We won it because we deserved it, not our fault the so called “big clubs” epically failed that season, we won it comfortably in the end, feet up, cigar out comfortably. 

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 Mcmahon is just a twat. He must have been on the sauce or something. 

 

How can you lose 3 games all season and it is a fluke, and yet LFC still haven't won the Prem.

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There were 38 games in that season and we were the better team in 23 of them, the joint best team in 12, and the second best team in 3.

 

Only two teams were able to beat us, and our nearest competitor finished 10 points behind. 

 

Fluke? My arse. 

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Izzy

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McMahon probably means a ‘one off’ rather than fluke. I doubt he means we were lucky.

 

Maybe he also meant Ranieri was in the right place at the right time etc.

 

Wouldn't get too wound up by it tbh.

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Vlad the Fox

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19 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

just imagine if arsenal won that year, would they call it a fluke then? very much doubt it. 

Basing it on people’s arguments that none of the top teams turned up you could argue that each champion since has been a fluke, as man u, arsenal, liverpool (until this season) have all been a mess, chelsea have been poor apart from the season after and man city only came good last season. It’s the reason why spurs have managed to break into the top 4. 

 

Ive not heard any talk chelsea and man city only winning because the others were having bad seasons though. 

 

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It's difficult for people to accept it when something strange (Leicester winning the league, for example) happens. Especially ex-footballers, pundits and the like who tend to deal in received opinion. 

If you're looking for insight and original thought from the likes of Steve McMahon - well, maybe you're looking in the wrong place.

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