Manchester City Found Guilty Of Almost All Charges

[OntarioFox]

2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Me after having said this for the last six years:

 

Every football fan on the planet trying to get the Prem (and EFL) to expel them from the professional leagues

[Nickaj]

On 25/09/2026 at 15:46, Brizzle Fox said:

Yeah fair enough. This is going to be an absolute gold mine for the lawyers.

 

I would expect that first they will appeal against this judgement and then, when applied they will then appeal against any sanction imposed against them - potentially, 114 times.

If they decide to fight it out, this could take years……….

[trooky]

16 minutes ago, Nickaj said:

 

I would expect that first they will appeal against this judgement and then, when applied they will then appeal against any sanction imposed against them - potentially, 114 times.

If they decide to fight it out, this could take years……….

They can't just appeal to delay the punishment.

 

It has to be under Premier League Rule W

 

1. The commission's decision was wrong in law. 

2. There was a serious procedural or other irregularity in the proceedings

3. The decision (particularly any sanction) was unreasonable/manifestly excessive — i.e. no reasonable panel could have reached it

[davieG]

 

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Martin Samuels nails it:

[davieG]

Have no idea if this is bullshit or not, potentially libellous 

 

This not my view as I have no knowledge of any of these accusations

 

Make your own mind up.

 

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The Untold Pep Files: A Story of Drugs, Referees, and Dark Money in Football

Imagine a story so massive it makes the Lance Armstrong scandal look like a warm-up act. It starts with a single player, spans across three countries, and exposes a decades-long trail of destroyed evidence, "miracle" doctors, and institutional corruption.

Welcome down the rabbit hole.

CHAPTER 1: The Player Who Got Caught

Before Pep Guardiola was the master tactician, he was a midfielder for Brescia in 2001. That was the year he tested positive twice for the banned anabolic steroid nandrolone.

His defense? "Contaminated multivitamins."

Who was the man preparing those exact vitamins? Dr. Ramon Segura, the same physiologist who was working with Frank de Boer when De Boer also tested positive for nandrolone that exact same year.

The pattern was set early: win at all costs, and surround yourself with questionable medicine.

CHAPTER 2: The Barcelona "Miracles" & Operación Puerto

When Pep took over Barcelona in 2008, guess who he immediately brought in to lead the medical staff? Dr. Ramon Segura.

At the same time, Spanish football was shadowed by Operación Puerto, the infamous raid on Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes that uncovered 99 blood bags containing EPO. Fuentes openly admitted on trial that he had worked with football and tennis stars, famously taunting the court that naming his clients meant Spain would have to give back their Champions League, European Championship, and World Cup trophies.

The Spanish judge’s response? Refuse to let him name names, reject WADA’s appeal, and order all blood bags destroyed under the guise of doctor-patient confidentiality.

Add to this:

Journalists uncovering full-season "doping preparation plans" for La Liga giants.

Real Sociedad’s president admitting they spent €327,000 annually on illegal black-market PEDs.

Retracted slips on radio revealing players using growth hormones for "muscle recovery."

Spanish football's Golden Era was built, but the paper trail was conveniently burned.

CHAPTER 3: The System Expands — Financial Doping & Negreira

Winning wasn't just happening on the pitch; it was being secured everywhere else.

While the public obsessively meme's about Premier League charges, Barcelona was paying millions to Jose Maria Enriquez Negreira, the Vice President of Spain's Refereeing Committee. When asked in court to provide the "referee reports" they claimed to be paying for, Barca couldn't produce them. They paid off the referees' boss, plain and simple.

CHAPTER 4: The Bayern Friction

When Pep arrived at Bayern Munich, he tried to bring his hyper-aggressive medical protocols with him. He insisted on sending injured players back to Barcelona to be treated by his preferred specialists.

This sparked an explosive fallout with Bayern’s legendary physician Dr. Hans-Wilhelm Müller-Wohlfahrt, who walked out in disgust over Pep’s demands for unnatural, record-breaking recovery times. Bayern’s old guard refused to bend the knee to Pep's dark arts.

CHAPTER 5: Manchester City & The Ultimate Machine

At Manchester City, Pep finally found a club with zero moral boundaries to stop him.

The strategy reached its final, perfected evolution:

Financial Doping: Siphoning billions in hidden payments to bypass FFP rules and buy infinite depth.

Medical Anomaly: Key players like De Bruyne, Kompany constantly flying to Barcelona to see Dr. Ramon Cugat, mysteriously recovering weeks ahead of human biology norms.

Refereeing “controversies” and literally paying off referees like Michael Oliver.

When Samir Nasri got caught receiving illegal IV drip treatments in 2016, it was framed as an isolated mistake.

THE VERDICT

From nandrolone positives in 2001 to 115 financial charges and paid-off referee chiefs today... Pep Guardiola didn't just adapt to elite football. He systematically redefined how to cheat it.

You think Lance Armstrong was the biggest cover-up in sports history?

You haven't been paying attention.

[Chelmofox]

7 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

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Martin Samuels nails it:

So we should be grateful to Man City breaking the rules, because in doing so they broke into the elite, and then just became part of the problem that existed in the first place?

 

Dont agree with handing out titles to others - stupid idea. 

[urban.spaceman]

15 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

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Martin Samuels nails it:

He's been excellent on us IMO.

 

From June 2025:

 

Leicester victims of PSR quadruple jeopardy

 

Leicester City would like to make a managerial change; that much seems obvious. Ruud van Nistelrooy won four league matches in his tenure, two of which came after relegation, against teams that, like Leicester, were already down. They cannot move, however, because of Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR). Leicester already fear a vindictive 12-point deduction in the Championship next season, and paying off Van Nistelrooy would make their financial predicament worse. Any player who may be considered an asset, such as goalkeeper Mads Hermansen, will have to be sold, weakening them further. Russell Martin, considered a managerial target, has now taken the job at Rangers, and there is a worry that two other candidates, Danny Röhl, of Sheffield Wednesday, and Sean Dyche, may be lost to them too.

 

Leicester erred with Van Nistelrooy, and that’s what PSR does — it cements mistakes in place, with no second chances. So Leicester will be relegated, suffer a points deduction in the league below and conduct a fire sale of what little talent the club do possess, while being stuck with a manager who has shown little aptitude for the job. No one is arguing the club have not been run poorly, but PSR ensures they get no opportunity to change course. This isn’t double jeopardy, it’s quadruple jeopardy. It is almost as if the Premier League won’t rest until it kills a club, just to show it can.

[brookfox]

Can’t the Prem just retrospectively just re-write the rules, let them off and we can all just get on with life.

[Finnegan]

Will bet my house on them getting a massive points deduction that's perfectly well calculated to look like the Premier League are handing out the biggest punishment ever seen whilst also being enough that they can overcome and stay up. 

 

Win win win for the league. They get to look strong, they get to keep Man City in the league and they get a big dramatic story to sell with Man City being in a relegation race all year that will apparently be dramatic and keep people interested. 

 

Edited Sunday at 16:16 by Finnegan

[FoxinNotts]

They'll get a big fine and a massive points deduction, which will send them down.

 

That'll be it.

[Brizzle Fox]

16 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

So we should be grateful to Man City breaking the rules, because in doing so they broke into the elite, and then just became part of the problem that existed in the first place?

 

Dont agree with handing out titles to others - stupid idea. 

Tbh it would help if Samuels didn't allegedly have such a close relationship with the Abu Dhabi regime and Man City, as everything he writes on this subject now has to be treated with a raised eyebrow and a degree of cynicism.

 

On us however he has generally been decent. 

[Brizzle Fox]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Will bet my house on them getting a massive points deduction that's perfectly well calculated to look like the Premier League are handing out the biggest punishment ever seen whilst also being enough that they can overcome and stay up. 

 

Win win win for the league. They get to look strong, they get to keep Man City in the league and they get a big dramatic story to sell with Man City being in a relegation race all year that will apparently be dramatic and keep people interested. 

 

The silence from the Premier League since this all came out has been deafening and points to me that punishments have been agreed, but with the furore over the whole subject, maybe some caution as to the public reaction that they just won't be enough.

 

The max I can see happening being a points deduction that guarantees relegation, transfer window restrictions, big fine and if they have the power being disallowed to qualify for European competition for a few years.

 

All stuff that will be short term and which within a handful of years at the most, will see them back to where they are now.

[MPH]

9 hours ago, trooky said:

All of social media is talking about lawsuits against Man City, but I can't believe no one is directing their anger at the PL, UEFA or CAS

 

This went on undetected for 9 years, was only investigated because of the football leaks emails. 

 

The Premier League's incompetence is unbelievable.  There were warning signs in 2014 when they broke UEFA FFP rules with PSG and agreed a negotiated settlement with Infantino. 

 

They were banned by UEFA in 20-21 and 21-22  but won an appeal with CAS on a technicality. 

 

City spent 4 years fighting the PL in the courts trying to prevent them bringing a case against them and I expect the appeal will drag-on equally as long. 

 

They are known to have cheated for 9 years and will have spent a similar time fighting the charges, When they are eventually punished, they should be expelled from football. 

 

 

 

it’s a tricky one… and I get what you’re saying..

 

 

But what you are asking for is for FIFA to have intimate knowledge  and private access  to every bank account owned and operated by Man City and all their players.. and all before  any inclination of any crime has been committed.  From a Legal standpoint, I don’t know any club or player  who would allow that.

 

and with regards to punishment, they may be expelled from the premier league but you can’t  ’ expels them from football. One battle that Leicester City won was that a punishment dealt out in the premier league is not enforceable in the football league.. however, there is one caveat.. and that is if Man city get expelled from the prem, the football league are under no obligation to accept them into the championship. Or any division for that matter. And if they do, that’s going to have a knock on effect for everyone else- who is going to be denied a place in the champ  at man city’s expense? Will the champ be able to operate with an extra team for a season?

 

 

however the Cynic in me tells me that the league will force Man city to hand over a large ‘ compensation package’ to whoever wins the first division play off for them to step aside for a season. Which will only  reinforce the sentiment that money can buy you anything in football.

Edited Sunday at 17:12 by MPH

[trooky]

4 hours ago, MPH said:

 

it’s a tricky one… and I get what you’re saying..

 

 

But what you are asking for is for FIFA to have intimate knowledge  and private access  to every bank account owned and operated by Man City and all their players.. and all before  any inclination of any crime has been committed.  From a Legal standpoint, I don’t know any club or player  who would allow that.

 

and with regards to punishment, they may be expelled from the premier league but you can’t  ’ expels them from football. One battle that Leicester City won was that a punishment dealt out in the premier league is not enforceable in the football league.. however, there is one caveat.. and that is if Man city get expelled from the prem, the football league are under no obligation to accept them into the championship. Or any division for that matter. And if they do, that’s going to have a knock on effect for everyone else- who is going to be denied a place in the champ  at man city’s expense? Will the champ be able to operate with an extra team for a season?

 

 

however the Cynic in me tells me that the league will force Man city to hand over a large ‘ compensation package’ to whoever wins the first division play off for them to step aside for a season. Which will only  reinforce the sentiment that money can buy you anything in football.

I don't agree with the rules, I think owners should be able to spend what they want. 

 

However FFP is a fundamental principle of both UEFA and Premier league competitions, they have to have measures in place to prevent this from happening and clearly didn't. 

 

Clubs had to give UEFA  access to their financial accounts since 2011-12. 

 

They know the amount of sponsorship agreements, manager, player saleries, transfer payments, and agent fees. 

 

It wasn't that hard to work out who was financial doping  and if they suspected any clubs they could have employed forensic accountants to investigate. 

 

Its their competitions and they can make the rules by which clubs enter. 

 

For me this is the same level of cheating as Lance Armstrong, and he never cycled again. 

 

Kick them out of the football league, make them reapply to enter the bottom of the football pyramid. 

Edited Sunday at 21:24 by trooky

[Jattdogg]

If the cheating is that bad, can they not force a sale of man city?

 

If you are every other club this would be the time to stick the knife in and rotate it in all directions. 

 

Hope they get sued into oblivion.

 

 

 

[Corky]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

So we should be grateful to Man City breaking the rules, because in doing so they broke into the elite, and then just became part of the problem that existed in the first place?

 

Dont agree with handing out titles to others - stupid idea. 

The Premier League is only reasonably competitive below the top three because some of the richest clubs are squandering their advantage. If they all got their act together then even the best run lower clubs would at best be competing for 7th.

 

Man City will get a deserved punishment but it won't change the game.

[Unabomber]

The three title makes me laugh. Guilty of almost all, yeah all but 1!

[CrispinLA in Texas]

Shouldn't this be on general football and sport.....the standard's here have fallen just like the club 🙄

[Pliskin]

What’s the betting King power don’t sell the club now to hang around for a lawsuit to make money from this scenario…….

[OntarioFox]

9 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Shouldn't this be on general football and sport.....the standard's here have fallen just like the club 🙄

Directly affects us as one of the teams almost certain to take legal action against them.

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[StanSP]

Not a chance.

[HankMarvin]

[Trent Steel]

Don't know what everyone's getting excited for. Nothing serious will happen to them and they will still have loads of cash. The best players and be in the prem.

 

[BenTheFox]

4 hours ago, davieG said:

 

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Martin Samuels nails it:

They cheated a system that was rigged against them (and everyone outside the established elite).