England vs Argentina - Weds 15th July - 20.00 (BST)

[Corky]

1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

Rodgers used to do this all the time. Poor managers always do this. You throw on more defenders thinking it makes you more defensively sound. 

 

It never works, it's absolutely stupid. Defenders defend so much on instinct, you throw on extra defenders and all of a sudden everything is unfamiliar. It's never a good idea to change defensive shape in the middle of the game. 

 

The worst thing was how awful they were defensively, too. Millions of defenders on yet, I think, five free headers that led to a goal, save or hitting the post.

[Tielemans63]

1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

Rodgers used to do this all the time. Poor managers always do this. You throw on more defenders thinking it makes you more defensively sound. 

 

It never works, it's absolutely stupid. Defenders defend so much on instinct, you throw on extra defenders and all of a sudden everything is unfamiliar. It's never a good idea to change defensive shape in the middle of the game. 

 

This is the point I was making earlier. This guy gets £5 million a year and makes a mistake as basic as that. Embarrassing. I genuinely think he should be sacked for that.

[Finnegan]

Just now, Vacamion said:

 

Next England boss?

 

I'm thinking Big Sam, Neil Warnock Alan Pardew or Alan Curbishley.

 

Or Paul Jewell.

 

 

 

You should offer it to Russell Martin. 

 

It'd be a big loss but I'm willing to put England's needs before City's out of respect for the country I live in. 

 

[Staff]

Gutted

[Ian Nacho]

The Malvinas are more Spanish than Argentinian. 

[Staff]

At least we won the war 

[fox_up_north]

2 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Can tell Rooney played for one of the best managers in history 

 

Clearly on another level with his insights 

Really has surprised me with his comments this tournament

[MattFox]

Just now, Tielemans63 said:

This is the point I was making earlier. This guy gets £5 million a year and makes a mistake as basic as that. Embarrassing. I genuinely think he should be sacked for that.

Southgate never made defensive changes like that

[whoareyaaa]

Says we got to passive yea because of your subs or non subs u stupid german **** 

[foxfanazer]

Scraping through games against lesser opposition might seem fine at the time but the step up required to then turn it on against the better sides is too much of a tall order. We're using up all of this emotional and physical energy narrowly beating Ghana and Norway etc and then look completely spent 

[James and his giant peach]

This is on Tuchel one million per cent. Shut up shop after 60 minutes, handed the initiative, messed around with the formation and team multiple times and made us way way too defensive. We played ok for 60 mins and they were dogshit but WE changed the momentum backwards. Also, they put ball after ball of quality in the box. We did that once and scored, but all other opportunities were awful. We just do the same at every tournament, flatter to receive, come up short and ultimately not be brave enough. Manager bottled it. 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, foxfanazer said:

Scraping through games against lesser opposition might seem fine at the time but the step up required to then turn it on against the better sides is too much of a tall order. We're using up all of this emotional and physical energy narrowly beating Ghana and Norway etc and then look completely spent 

If we went to war now we would get wiped out in days 

Edited 1 hour ago by whoareyaaa

[JonnyZeroFox]

Just now, MattFox said:

Southgate never made defensive changes like that

He didn’t, against Italy at 1-1 we were still a threat… even Spain.. he never had all his defenders on that is for sure. It’s a ****ing massive brain fart from Tuchel here… pathetic 

[Sly]

4 minutes ago, Will1981 said:

4x 6 ft+ CB on the pitch and they let 5ft 9in L. Martinez score a free header in the 6 yard box.

Stones missed it and Konsa didn’t tuck in. 

[Finnegan]

Not helping himself in this interview really is he. 

[StanSP]

Tuchel said he'll take responsibility for the performance but doesn't actually do so and denies we went too defensive

[Trav Le Bleu]

Burnham's first job as PM, phone Gianni.

[StanSP]

'we made offensive subs too' was a personal highlight of a car crash of an interview

 

[JonnyZeroFox]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

Scraping through games against lesser opposition might seem fine at the time but the step up required to then turn it on against the better sides is too much of a tall order. We're using up all of this emotional and physical energy narrowly beating Ghana and Norway etc and then look completely spent 

Argentina also scrapped through… but what matters is when 1 up you don’t roll out all your defenders and gift the opposition space ffs 

[trabuch]

A very Rogers interview

[StanSP]

Just now, Trav Le Bleu said:

Burnham's first job as PM, shoot Gianni.

Yes. 

[foxfanazer]

3 minutes ago, Dan said:

It was just so ****ing unnecessary. We couldn't have played any more into Argentina's hands. Their equaliser felt inevitable, and their winner did as well after that arrived.

 

You don't have to go all guns blazing but at least try and get the game out of our own half. It's like the Mexico game has duped him into this false sense of security that we'll just defend our way through it and not get punished. You're alright when the oppositions best attacker is Raul Jimenez. Argentina have real firepower.

 

It's not like they didn't give us warnings. There's no hard luck story. No bad luck. No corruption accusations. Just total cowardice. They completely deserved to beat us.

 

The most galling part of that is this manager was brought in pretty much on his game management. The whole rationale behind that appointment was turning the oh so nearly's into wins. To fall down very specifically on that point is sickening.

Of course you don't. Get your so called world class midfielders to keep the ball for a few minutes and take the sting out of the game. We almost instantly put 10 men behind the ball after scoring. It shows your opposition that you fear them and that they have nothing to worry about the other way 

[James and his giant peach]

5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Rodgers used to do this all the time. Poor managers always do this. You throw on more defenders thinking it makes you more defensively sound. 

 

It never works, it's absolutely stupid. Defenders defend so much on instinct, you throw on extra defenders and all of a sudden everything is unfamiliar. It's never a good idea to change defensive shape in the middle of the game. 

 

Spot on. They all looked like they didn't know where they were playing or what they were doingm. Let's put Burn on to head it, let's go 5 at the back, etc etc it was a horrid last half hour, got what they deserved. 

[em9999]

Just now, StanSP said:

Tuchel said he'll take responsibility for the performance but doesn't actually do so and denies we went too defensive

If we went any more defensive we would have had 11 players on our own goal line

 

 

Hes a clown 8

[FoxesTez]

Very unimpressive interview.